Rebalance Thread - Organized suggestions!

[groszek]

poliwarth back dynamic punch , is bad idea new atak , back dynamic

horkrow further has bad dmg knock off - psycho 500~~ dmg o.o 16:20 Your Honchkrow deals 536 damage to an Alakazam. (130 Alaka) more dmg matve 1300~~

tyranitar back EQ , lost EQ is bad idea ! tyranitar is good pokes in anime. remove stone edge back EQ

mamoswine remore ice fang and add earth atak maybe drill run < mamo have 2 horn ;p and only have 2 earth atak and 6 ice atak )

SNORLAX changle hyperbeam for lick=snore , hyperbeam is basic attack which he used in the anime (ursuring it also) becose snore cd 20 sek only atak use snorlax use rest 70 sek , maybe change snore for hyper beam

BACK iron defence STELIX change for harden becose steel poke

dragonite back aer ace remove wing attak , nite is very good poke anime , on rebelance nite is bad

ryperior back iron tail remore rock throw , ryperio have tail and need attack iron tail

change atak sky uper , is bad becose i use atack other pokes atack me and i dead , plis beck old sky uper .

girafina add recover remove maybe psybeam/stomp becose all pokes psycho have heal besides girafina

shiftry remore take down and add hypnosis , take down is very bad stun and maybe himself stun ;/ good idea remove synhesis and add protect and maybe add aer ace/turn on/pursuit for energy ball becose very speed pokes , PA is very slow

 

[cmorky1]

takes back EQ Tyranitar
Blissey as it was now a weak heal and defenze
Sky Upercut TM is rare and is now very weak
Repair Blaziken, attacks Flare Blitz is still bad exp with me on grass 100+ kills
Scizor have low DMG

 

[TheLegacy]

Wigglytuff

Moves:
Doubleslap - m1 - level 30 - 5s <-- it has too much damage, reduce 20% .
Lovely Kiss - m2 - level 30 - 15s <-- remove the stun chance, it actually stuns 4.5 and its too frecuently the % to activate it like atract.
Sing - m3 - level 30 - 25s <-- + 5s , in a pvp 1 vs 1 this pokemon can use it twice.
Hyper Voice - m4 - level 30 - 20s
Selfheal - m5 - level 30 - 40s
Healarea - m6 - level 40 - 70s
Echoed Voice - m7 - level 80 - 35s <-- less damage, in other pokemons the CD is 40 and 45s, this pokemon has the shortest and the strongest one.
Metronome - m8 - level 30 - 45s
Defense Curl - m9 - level 50 - 40s
Charm - m10 - level 45 - 15s
Melody - Passive <-- the chance this activate is more than 60%, and when it stun, it does it for more than 4.5s, thing that let him do the op combo (stun + atack + stun + atack) Almost fixed

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Blastoise

- It has protection
- Good Hp
- Good damage
- Can learn reflect, brick break and 2 stuns

Why does it have harden? thing that protect him 25% extra, its passive activate too frecuently, and vs plant is kinda dificult to defeat, only meganium with reflect & venusaur with reflect can do it and not easy ...
My suggestion is to remove harden, it just doesnt need it.

Will be tested

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Move : Melody , Doom Desire , growl, Lovely Kiss, sleep powder, stun spoder, are still stunning 4.5s-5s, if rebalance pretends to remove the op combos noobs were abusing for more than 1 year, i dont see the reason to keep the same stunning time in these moves, some pokes like wiggly, meganium, blaziken, rapidash, cloned venusaur & victreebel and pokes that learn doom look op sometimes cuz when they use one of these, they have enough time to attack and stun attack, making imposible the chance to defense or attack agaist them. They all should stun 3.5s max, so if the enemy is fast and good in pvp, he will have a chance to move, protect, or use any tm to dodge attack.


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Dragonite
This pokemon is fine in almost all their moves, but i dont agree in his acua jet, some dragonites have water pulse and with a combo, they can kill steelix with tms, i dont know if the damage in acua jet was reduced, but if not i think it should, so dragonite wont kill rock type anymore.
Steelix is Earth/Steel, not Rock. Try to kill dragonite with Golem or Rhyperior. Let us know if you can't (Not cloned Dragonite 130 with Reflect and Water Pulse vs Golem 100 no TMs please).
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[Zelricks]

poliwarth back dynamic punch , is bad idea new atak , back dynamic || Fixed/Tested

horkrow further has bad dmg knock off - psycho 500~~ dmg o.o 16:20 Your Honchkrow deals 536 damage to an Alakazam. (130 Alaka) more dmg matve 1300~~Fixed/Tested

tyranitar back EQ , lost EQ is bad idea ! tyranitar is good pokes in anime. remove stone edge back EQ ||Fixed/Tested

mamoswine remore ice fang and add earth atak maybe drill run < mamo have 2 horn ;p and only have 2 earth atak and 6 ice atak ) || will be tested


girafina add recover remove maybe psybeam/stomp becose all pokes psycho have heal besides girafina || Will be tested

shiftry remore take down and add hypnosis , take down is very bad stun and maybe himself stun ;/ good idea remove synhesis and add protect and maybe add aer ace/turn on/pursuit for energy ball becose very speed pokes , PA is very slow || Will be tested

As you can see, some words with bond Fixed/Tested its cuz those are already fine on ts

 

[Invictus]

Poliwrath: Add Dynamic Punch again, it was the only atk strong enough to kill normal pokemons. Rock smash may be a nice aoe move but on a pvp it lost power. I dont see any reason to change wrath, it was already pretty well rebalanced.

Fixed/Tested.
It's because it had 2 stuns and also could learn reflect, brick break and 2 stuns. We found a way.

 

[Horrorcore]

Primeape remove sucker punch add rock smash Will be tested other way to help it lvl

mismagius icrease rate passive Will be tested

 

[Billy hatake]

Aerodactyl are sux ... (yea, always was sux u.u )
return falling rock on moveset and remove rock throw (idk the real name)
Remove bit add super fang


someone can change ? I cant help yet bcs i have problem with my pc

Will be tested

 

[Zelricks]

Guys, before you posted anything about pokemons
Check all pages to see if they are already on suggestions

Also, I've edited some post with Fixed/Tested and Will be tested to make you all know we are working on them

 

[Front]

I think :
Tyranitar Moves:
Crunch - m1 - level 80 - 25s
Rock Throw - m2 - level 80 - 15s
Rock Slide - m3 - level 80 - 15s
Thunder Fang - m4 - level 80 - 30s
Sandstorm - m5 - level 80 - 20s
Scary Face - m6 - level 82 - 35s
Hyper Beam - m7 - level 85 - 35s
Payback - m8 - level 88 - 15s
Assurance - m9 - level 90 - 35s
Earthquake - m10 - level 90 - 40s
Rage - Passive

Fixed/Tested

and

Alakazam Moves:
Kinesis - m1 - level 75 - 30s
Psybeam - m2 - level 70 - 10s
Psy Pulse - m3 - level 70 - 8s
Confusion - m4 - level 70 - 25s
Psychic - m5 - level 70 - 10s
Psyfusion - m6 - level 80 - 45s
Calm Mind - m7 - level 70 - 20s
Hypnosis - m8 - level 70 - 35s
Reflect - m9 - level 70 - 55s
Restore - m10 - level 70 - 60s
Psyshock - Passive

These Pokemon deserve good skills.

 

[Wawix]

Noctowl should can learn TM Reflect (somebody say that in comment up) and TM Aerial Ace
i understund you take his start Aerial becasue its stun (all pokes have max 2 stuns) but i think he should can get it from TM
TM40 will be tested

 

[satoshi-sama]

remove lick from jynx and add hypnosis

 

[leonardo59327]

Pokemon: Blaziken

Suggestion: Add The Old Sky Uppercut

Argument: now the two pokes lose the target, its bad for pvp and for pve, you die if you are killing 8 venusaurs, they forgot blazi for 1-2 seconds and Attack the the player

 

[Chupiplum]

Ingles:
Pokemon: Charizard
Tip : Should Putting An Attack As Roost As It Is Also A Fly Type Pokemon .
Plot: My Argument Is Being A Pokemon Charizard That Should Have Roost Fly Like The Dragonite

Español:
Pokemon:Charizard
Sugerenciaeberian Ponerle Un Ataque Como Roost Ya Que Es Un Pokemon Tipo Fly Tambien.
Argumento:Mi Argumento Es Que Charizard Siendo Un Pokemon Fly Deberia Tener Roost Como El Dragonite

 

[leonardo59327]

Pokemon: Crobat

Suggestion: Add Super Sonic

Argument: this pokemon is known for his super sonic


Scary Face - m1 - level 80 - 25s >>> to dont be op, put Scary Face 30 seconds too
Swift - m2 - level 80 - 15s
Poison Fang - m3 - level 80 - 10s
Air Cutter - m4 - level 80 - 20s >>> Super Sonic - m4 - Level 80 - 30s
Toxic - m5 - level 80 - 20s
Whirlwind - m6 - level 80 - 15s
Wing Attack - m7 - level 80 - 15s
Cross Poison - m8 - level 82 - 25s
Sludge Bomb - m9 - level 85 - 40s
Mortal Gas - m10 - level 90 - 35s
Leech Life - Passive

Will be tested

 

[leonardo59327]

Pokemon: Ambipom

Suggestion: Add Double Team

Argument: if staying op dont add, but test , ~~ the first pokemon with double team and metronome, using two different Metronomes, will be cool for all eyes.


Doubleslap - m1 - level 70 - 5s >>>>>> to dont be op 8 seconds
Multi-Slap - m2 - level 70 - 20s >>>>> Double Team - m2- Level 75 - 60 seconds
Astonish - m3 - level 70 - 30s
Swift - m4 - level 70 - 15s
Knock Off - m5 - level 72 - 20s
Fury Swipes - m6 - level 70 - 20s
Metronome - m7 - level 70 - 30s >>> to dont be op 35s or 40s
Pursuit - m8 - level 70 - 30s
Hone Claws - m9 - level 74 - 25s
Protection - m10 - level 80 - 50s to dont be op >> put 60s or 65s
Double Hit - Passive

Will be tested

 

[leonardo59327]

Pokemon: Tentacruel

Suggestion: add More One Stun

Argument: he is good with his dmgs, acid is useless i think they need more one stun


Bubbles - m1 - level 40 - 10s
Toxic Spikes - m2 - level 50 - 25s
Acid - m3 - level 40 - 10s >>>>>>>> Confusion Or Smokescreen - m3 - Level 58 - 40s (i think confusion is good, smokescreen will be op)
Bubblebeam - m4 - level 40 - 20s
Sting Gun - m5 - level 40 - 15s
Waterball - m6 - level 42 - 15s
Scald - m7 - level 44 - 20s
Super Sonic - m8 - level 50 - 30s
Sludge Bomb - m9 - level 55 - 30s
Hydropump - m10 - level 60 - 50s

Will be tested

 

[leonardo59327]

Pokemon: Steelix

Suggesstion: Add Iron Defense

Argument: he is a iron poke, i think he need this, harden its absurd harden its for rock pokes, no steel


Moves:
Iron Tail - m1 - level 110 - 10s
Rock Slide - m2 - level 110 - 10s
Earthshock - m3 - level 110 - 10s
Falling Rocks - m4 - level 110 - 25s
Earthquake - m5 - level 110 - 35s
Harden - m6 - level 110 - 35s >>>> Iron Defense- m6 - level 111 - 45s
Underground - m7 - level 110 - 50s
Fire Fang - m8 - level 112 - 15s
Flash Cannon - m9 - level 115 - 15s >>>>>> to dont be op put 20s
Fissure - m10 - level 118 - 60s >>>>>> to dont be op put 90s

 

[blass3d]

Return earthquake to Tyranitar and remove stone edge
, remove mud shot and add rock tomb to Sandslash,
Charizard remove air slash and add roost,
remove water gun of Feraligatr and add ice punch

 

[Prexius]

About Blaziken and Sceptile..
It needs more stuns cuz they are a bit kept out of the other pokes.
I know u want to make it so much as possible non-stun duels, but there are other fire and grass pokes who will be played instead of Blaziken and Sceptile cuz the other pokes can use more stuns.
So my suggestion is to add TM Reflect in TM learnset (because attract sucks...)?

Greetings..

 

[TheLegacy]

Wigglytuff

Moves:
Doubleslap - m1 - level 30 - 5s
Lovely Kiss - m2 - level 30 - 15s (stun]/atract)
Sing - m3 - level 30 - 25s
Hyper Voice - m4 - level 30 - 20s
Selfheal - m5 - level 30 - 40s /stun
Healarea - m6 - level 40 - 70s
Echoed Voice - m7 - level 80 - 35s
Metronome - m8 - level 30 - 45s
Defense Curl - m9 - level 50 - 40s
Charm - m10 - level 45 - 15s
Melody - Passive (stun)

Remove defese curl, add giga impact or uproar.
Why defense curl should be removed? Have you ever look at wiggly vs pokemon fights or rock (has resistance to normal) it is a headache killing it, it has 2 heals, i bet his hp at lvl 130 is 13k+ + self heal (4-5k) + heal area (5-6k) , total hp is = 22,000 + defense curl that protect her 30% , its just imposible to defeat her properly, like the old blissey this pokemon kills everything, the diference is that this pokemon has echoed voice that hits 1400 * 3 = 4,000 + 1.5k from doubleslap + metronome + tm water pulse , can learn reflect , ahhhhh if it wasnt enough, sing and melody (that activate frecuently) stuns 4.5s, thing that let her attack one extra, and able to do the stun + attack + stun + attack, and i didnt mention that lovely kiss is now an atract, always activate when the enemy is diferent sex, lovely kiss stuns 4.5s too..., why we must have gallade with reflect and brick or machamp with brick to be able to defeat this?, even doing a perfect duel, the excesive damage this pokemon have, will be enough to kill the enemy i hope someone smart enough understand my arguments.