Rebalance suggestions - discussion

[Wycich]

Magmar
add more hp
add Smokescreen

Agree with you, magmar is still hard to catch, he should be the best fire pokemon.

 

[Khan]

Agree with you, magmar is still hard to catch, he should be the best fire pokemon.

Rare =/= Best.

 

[Phaesta]

Woobuffet with tri attack? Its a nonsense... Woobuffet is a defensive pokemon, should not attack much, maybe only rely on defensive/counter (this should be a passive skill) and passive skills

Also, Woobuffet now is like this:

Charm - m1 - level 50 - 12s
Calm Mind - m2- level 50 - 25s
Psywave - m3 - level 50 - 25s
Psybeam - m4 - level 50 - 20s
Confusion - m5 - level 50 - 25s
Psychic - m6 - level 50 - 15s
Magic Coat - m7 - level 52 - 25s
Safeguard - m8 - level 55 - 25s
Counter - m9 - level 58 - 20s

Should be like this:
Charm - m1 - level 50 - 12s
Safeguard - m8 - level 55 - 20s

Passives:
Counter - will counter melee damage
Mirror Coat - will counter CD's damage (maybe the same effect of the move used?)
Stunning Confusion


Woobuffet is a pokemon that depends on another pokemon attacks to give damage (in console games and anime), so, counter and Mirror Coat should activate when Woobuffet is a target (should be the same for another pokemon with Counter passive skill).

 

[koles]

Disagree with change counter for passiv. I think now wobbu is good poke for exp, for pvp a bit weak :/. Can change and add Safeguard for passiv.
Now Wobbuffet is good pokemon for exp. The problem is one, he's HP is very low. 100 lvl have 9,5k~, kidding me?

 

[Comatose]

Woobuffet with tri attack? Its a nonsense... Woobuffet is a defensive pokemon, should not attack much, maybe only rely on defensive/counter (this should be a passive skill) and passive skills

Also, Woobuffet now is like this:

Charm - m1 - level 50 - 12s
Calm Mind - m2- level 50 - 25s
Psywave - m3 - level 50 - 25s
Psybeam - m4 - level 50 - 20s
Confusion - m5 - level 50 - 25s
Psychic - m6 - level 50 - 15s
Magic Coat - m7 - level 52 - 25s
Safeguard - m8 - level 55 - 25s
Counter - m9 - level 58 - 20s

Should be like this:
Charm - m1 - level 50 - 12s
Safeguard - m8 - level 55 - 20s

Passives:
Counter - will counter melee damage
Mirror Coat - will counter CD's damage (maybe the same effect of the move used?)
Stunning Confusion


Woobuffet is a pokemon that depends on another pokemon attacks to give damage (in console games and anime), so, counter and Mirror Coat should activate when Woobuffet is a target (should be the same for another pokemon with Counter passive skill).

Agree only with stunning confucion xd counter is fine as a cd move

 

[Betony]

Thats true.. Wobbufet is a pokemon that depends on other pokes attacks to make dmg.. but if u are talking like in game well wobbufet is one of the pokemon that has alot of HP.. but here he has like 8.6k at lvl 90.. I suggest it could have more HP and i agree with changing its attacks to passive :3

 

[Pikus]

In my opinion Wobu should have atack like this:
Charm - m1 - level 50 - 12s
Calm Mind - m2- level 50 - 25s
Psywave - m3 - level 50 - 25s
Psybeam - m4 - level 50 - 20s
Confusion - m5 - level 50 - 25s
Psychic - m6 - level 50 - 15s
Magic Coat - m7 - level 52 - 25s
Safeguard - m8 - level 55 - 25s
Counter - m9 - level 58 - 20s
Psyfusion or Psycho Cut - m10 - level 60 - 25s
Passive : Hypnosis

And I Ask Why We cant learn Wobu New Other Attack( I say about TMs)

 

[Phaesta]

Yes, it should work if Woobuffet gain more HP, now, Woob has a ridiculous amount of HP, his def is OK.

Adding Stunning Confusion with his actual moveset will be O.P (even with his low HP, maybe if remove confusion), the same with Psyusion, Hypnosis and Psycho Cut (his psychic powers enable Woobuffet only to preview target attacks, in theory, he can only move and wait to be targeted...). I thought in Counter and Mirror Coat like passive skills because its a more relyable way to use Woob like a "Counter attack" pokemon, but, whatever, its just a opinion

 

[Niet]

Girafarig

Moves:
Tackle - m1 - level 30 - 8s
Growl - m2 - level 30 - 35s
Stomp - m3 - level 30 - 15s
Confusion - m4 - level 32 - 30s
Calm Mind - m5 - level 32 - 20s
Psybeam - m6 - level 35 - 15s
Crunch - m7 - level 40 - 35s
Psychic - m8 - level 40 - 20s
Zen Headbutt - m9 - level 45 - 40s

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Moves:
Tackle - m1 - level 30 - 8s
Growl - m2 - level 30 - 35s
Bite - m3 - level 30 - 15s
Confusion - m4 - level 32 - 30s
Calm Mind - m5 - level 32 - 20s
Psybeam - m6 - level 35 - 15s
Crunch - m7 - level 40 - 35s
Psychic - m8 - level 40 - 20s
Zen Headbutt - m9 - level 45 - 30s
Psyshock -m10 - level 48 - 45s

 

[Rushoffu]

Stantler is rly bad pokemon

Change Stomp cd to 10 sec
More dmg in Tackle
Add Take Down and Astonish

 

[Obreviate]

Current Miltank

Name: Miltank
Type: Normal

Description: Miltank gives over five gallons of milk on a daily basis. Its sweet milk is enjoyed by children and grown-ups alike. People who can't drink milk turn it into yogurt and eat it instead.

Moves:
Tackle - m1 - level 40 - 8s
Stomp - m2 - level 40 - 15s
Headbutt - m3 - level 40 - 15s
Growl - m4 - level 40 - 40s
Heal Bell - m5 - level 42 - 60s
Milk Drink - m6 - level 45 - 70s
Attract - m7 - level 50 - 40s
Zen Headbutt - m8 - level 52 - 35s
Rollout - m9 - level 55 - 65s

TM Learnset:
TM03 Water Pulse - level 25 - 30s
TM13 Ice Beam - level 30 - 40s
TM14 Blizzard - level 30 - 45s
TM15 Hyper Beam - level 30 - 50s
TM19 Giga Drain - level 80 - 30s
TM25 Thunder - level 40 - 40s
TM26 Earthquake - level 40 - 60s

Rebalanced Miltank

Name: Miltank
Type: Normal

Description: Miltank gives over five gallons of milk on a daily basis. Its sweet milk is enjoyed by children and grown-ups alike. People who can't drink milk turn it into yogurt and eat it instead.

Moves:
Headbutt - m1 - level 40 - 15s
Growl - m2 - level 40 - 40s
Tackle - m3 - level 40 - 8s
Milk Drink - m4 - level 45 - 70s
Attract - m5 - level 50 - 40s
Rollout - m6 - level 55 - 65s
Stomp - m7 - level 40 - 15s
Heal Bell - m8 - level 42 - 60s
Body Slam - m9 - level 60 - 65s
Defense Curl - m10 - level 55 - 30s Or Wake-Up Slap m10 - level 60 - 35s

TM Learnset:
TM03 Water Pulse - level 25 - 30s
TM13 Ice Beam - level 30 - 40s
TM14 Blizzard - level 30 - 45s
TM15 Hyper Beam - level 30 - 50s
TM19 Giga Drain - level 80 - 30s
TM25 Thunder - level 40 - 40s
TM26 Earthquake - level 40 - 60s
TM33 Reflect - level 50 - 60s

 

[TheLegacy]

Current Miltank

Name: Miltank
Type: Normal

Description: Miltank gives over five gallons of milk on a daily basis. Its sweet milk is enjoyed by children and grown-ups alike. People who can't drink milk turn it into yogurt and eat it instead.

Moves:
Tackle - m1 - level 40 - 8s
Stomp - m2 - level 40 - 15s
Headbutt - m3 - level 40 - 15s
Growl - m4 - level 40 - 40s
Heal Bell - m5 - level 42 - 60s
Milk Drink - m6 - level 45 - 70s
Attract - m7 - level 50 - 40s
Zen Headbutt - m8 - level 52 - 35s
Rollout - m9 - level 55 - 65s

TM Learnset:
TM03 Water Pulse - level 25 - 30s
TM13 Ice Beam - level 30 - 40s
TM14 Blizzard - level 30 - 45s
TM15 Hyper Beam - level 30 - 50s
TM19 Giga Drain - level 80 - 30s
TM25 Thunder - level 40 - 40s
TM26 Earthquake - level 40 - 60s

Rebalanced Miltank

Name: Miltank
Type: Normal

Description: Miltank gives over five gallons of milk on a daily basis. Its sweet milk is enjoyed by children and grown-ups alike. People who can't drink milk turn it into yogurt and eat it instead.

Moves:
Headbutt - m1 - level 40 - 15s
Growl - m2 - level 40 - 40s
Tackle - m3 - level 40 - 8s
Milk Drink - m4 - level 45 - 70s
Attract - m5 - level 50 - 40s
Rollout - m6 - level 55 - 65s
Stomp - m7 - level 40 - 15s
Heal Bell - m8 - level 42 - 60s
Body Slam - m9 - level 60 - 65s
Defense Curl - m10 - level 55 - 30s Or Wake-Up Slap m10 - level 60 - 35s

TM Learnset:
TM03 Water Pulse - level 25 - 30s
TM13 Ice Beam - level 30 - 40s
TM14 Blizzard - level 30 - 45s
TM15 Hyper Beam - level 30 - 50s
TM19 Giga Drain - level 80 - 30s
TM25 Thunder - level 40 - 40s
TM26 Earthquake - level 40 - 60s
TM33 Reflect - level 50 - 60s

bro in this post, i have already 3 suggestions for miltank ._. , and nobody do anything , then it's the reason why sometimes i post my suggestions on general discussion ...

 

[Pyrokar]

bro in this post, i have already 3 suggestions for miltank ._. , and nobody do anything , then it's the reason why sometimes i post my suggestions on general discussion ...

So maybe start to read and understand it's a discussion thread? Talk here about your suggestions posted here http://46.105.24.210/showthread.php?20867-Post-your-rebalance-suggestions. Give argues for your opinion or against some other. Hope you get the whole point now of those two threads.


And to all of you who post their suggestions - I always read freshly posted suggestions, so you don't have to ask me if I did it. If you simply want to hear my opinion about your suggestion or X Poke just leave a note under your post.

 

[Revon Arth]

Golem 115 and Electrode 122

 

[xtaacox]

also, not every pokemon deals the same amount of damage with the same move

 

[Kirminex]

Snorlax

Moves:
Scratch - m1 - level 50 - 8s
Bite - m2 - level 50 - 10s
Dizzy Punch - m3 - level 50 - 25s
Headbutt - m4 - level 50 - 12s
Mega Punch - m5 - level 52 - 25s
Body Slam - m6 - level 55 - 25s
Rest - m7 - level 55 - 70s
Crusher Stomp - m8 - level 56 - 30s

TM Learnset:
TM03 Water Pulse - level 25 - 30s
TM05 Roar - level 60 - 40s
TM15 Hyper Beam - level 30 - 50s
TM22 Solar Beam - level 50 - 60s
TM23 Meteor Mash - level 50 - 40s
TM24 Thunder Bolt - level 25 - 50s
TM25 Thunder - level 40 - 40s
TM26 Earthquake - level 40 - 60s
TM29 Psychic - level 20 - 25s
TM30 Shadow Ball - level 20 - 20s
TM31 Brick Break - level 60 - 50s
TM33 Reflect - level 50 - 60s
TM34 Bulldoze - level 30 - 40s
TM35 Flamethrower - level 30 - 35s
TM37 Sandstorm - level 60 - 40s
TM38 Fire Blast - level 40 - 50s
TM45 Attract - level 20 - 40s

 

[King]

New and Changes on Moves

Scary Face(new) - PXG Sprite - Sames range of Quake - effect: Paralize + Run(fear) for 6s.

Cotton Spore(changes) - PXG Sprite - range of Earthquake - effect: sheep + Confusion + Paralize for 6s.(vs Flutes)

Whirlwind(changes) - any sprites - Range: 3sqm - effect: throw the target 4 Sqm(depends on the position).

Fly attack(changes) - the target no desapear after being hit.

Magnitude(new) - Earthquake sprites - Range: Random in 1~4 Sqm - Random damage in 3 this of 800 ~ 1100(exemple).

Mortal Gas(changes) - poison gas sprite - Range: 4,5,4 Sqm - 3hits of 1000(exemple)

Cross Chop(Changes) - any sprite - Fire kick with 2 turns.

 

[Kirminex]

Swampert

Moves:
Bubbles - m1 - level 80 - 8s
Mud Shot - m2 - level 80 - 10s
Water Gun - m3 - level 80 - 10s
Bubblebeam - m4 - level 80 - 15s
Take Down - m5 - level 80 - 35s
Strafe - m6 - level 80 - 20s
Hydro Cannon - m7 - level 80 - 30s
Mud Sport - m8 - level 80 - 20s
Muddy Water - m9 - level 80 - 25s
Earthquake - m10 - level 90 - 50s
Whirlpool - Passive

New one

Moves:
Bubbles - m1 - level 80 - 8s
Mud Shot - m2 - level 80 - 10s
Water Gun - m3 - level 80 - 10s
Bubblebeam - m4 - level 80 - 15s
Take Down - m5 - level 80 - 35s
Protection - m6 - level 80 - 55s
Hydro Cannon - m7 - level 80 - 35s
Mud Sport - m8 - level 80 - 15s
Muddy Water - m9 - level 80 - 25s
Earthquake - m10 - level 85 - 50s
Whirlpool - Passive(More often)

 

[Uhkor]

Wigglytuff

Doubleslap - m1 - level 30 - 5s
Lovely Kiss - m2 - level 30 - 10s
Sing - m3 - level 30 - 20s
Hyper Voice - m4 - level 30 - 20s
Uproar - m5 - level 40 - 30s
Selfheal - m6 - level 30 - 50s
Healarea - m7 - level 40 - 100s
Focus - m8 - level 45 - 40s
Defense Curl - m9 -level 40 - 50s
Metronome - m10 - level 30 - 80s
Melody - Passive

 

[Kirminex]

Jumpluff

Tackle - m1 - level 50 - 8s
Razor Leaf - m2 - level 50 - 12s
Stun Spore - m3 - level 50 - 30s
Poison Powder - m4 - level 50 - 20s
Sleep Powder - m5 - level 50 - 30s
Air Cutter - m6 - level 50 - 25s
Leech Seed - m7 - level 50 - 15s
Bullet Seed - m8 - level 50 - 15s
Cotton Spore - m9 - level 55 - 30s
Giga Drain - m10 - level 60 - 60s

New one

Absorb - m1 - level 50 - 15s
Razor Leaf - m2 - level 50 - 15s
Stun Spore - m3 - level 50 - 30s
Poison Powder - m4 - level 50 - 20s
Sleep Powder - m5 - level 50 - 30s
Air Cutter - m6 - level 50 - 25s
Energy ball - m7 - level 50 - 20s
Bullet Seed - m8 - level 50 - 15s
Cotton Spore - m9 - level 55 - 30s
Giga Drain - m10 - level 60 - 25s