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Pyrokar

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I will just post here all of the suggestions I worked out with your ideas. Some are just copy+paste, some are modified. I will post suggestions in next posts, firstly I would like to announce which Pokes are at the revision list (haven't check them yet).

To revision:
Vileplume, Gengar, Lickitung, Lapras, Dragonite, Espeon, Umbreon, Murkrow, Slowking, Misdreavus, Girafarig, Steelix, Granbull, Qwilifish, Ursaring, Octillery, Porygon family, Stantler, Miltank

All other Pokes has ready suggestions. Let me write all of them down here.
 
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Venusaur - done
- replace Leech Seed with Sunny Day 25s (would like to make it an aoe buff; animation of that red circle that is around Magcargo)
- +1k HP

Charizard - done
- replaced Raging Blast with Dragon Breat
- small general damage increase
- Dragon Claw cooldown reduced
- added Metal Claw

Blastoise - done
- Harden as a passive
- reduced Skull Bash/Bubbles cooldown

Pidgeot - done
- damage/cooldown changes

Raticate
- add Shredder Team 60s (could be renamed to Double Team - then it would fit to more kind of Pokemons)

Fearow - done
- damage/cooldown changes

Arbok
- add Thunder Fang 800/20s
- add Ice Fang 800/15s
- add Underground Yx130/60s

Raichu
- replace Electric Storm with Shredder Team/Double Team 60s
- Thunder 10s-
- Thunder Bolt 5s-
- Iron Tail 5s-
- Mega Kick 5s-
- increase movement speed
- +1k HP
- Thunder Punch +200 dmg
- add Electricity (higher rate than Electabuzz, but lower dmg)

Sandslash
- add Slash 1.2k/10s (like wing attack)
- add Defense Curl 30s
- increase movement speed (a lot)

Wigglytuff
- Metronome 30s-
- add Defence Curl 20s

Clefable
- Metronome 15s-
 
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Nidoqueen
m1 50lvl Bite 900/10s, m2 50lvl Horn Attack 1.5k/10s, m3 50lvl Poison Fang 1k/10s, m4 50lvl Poison Sting 1.3k/15s, m5 50lvl Toxic 1.5k/20s, m6 55lvl Dizzy Punch 1.8k/20s, m7 60lvl Toxic Spikes (animation of Thunder) 2.5k/30s, m8 65 Earthshock 1.8k/25s, m9 70lvl Crunch 3x700/30s, m10 75 Epicenter Yx800/40s, m11 Strafe passive 20%

Nidoking
m1 50lvl Bite 1.3/10s, m2 50lvl Horn Attack 1.8k/10s, m3 50lvl Poison Sting 1.6k/10s, m4 50lvl Iron Tail 1.8k/10s, m5 50lvl Toxic 2k/20s, m6 55lvl Dizzy Punch 1.8k/20s, m7 60lvl Megahorn 2.1k/25s, m8 65 Earthshock 1.8k/25s, m9 70lvl Venom Blast 2x2k/35s, m10 75 Epicenter Yx800/40s, m11 Rage passive 20%

Ninetales
- replace Quick Attack with Tail Whip 3x1k/10s
- Flamethrower/Flame Wheel/Fireball 5s-
- Confuse Ray 15s-

Parasect
- +1.5k HP
- Fury Cutter 10s-
- add Swords Dance 1.6k/20s
- passive rate up
- replace Slash with Night Slash 3x600/15s
- replace Scratch with Metal Claw 1.4k/10s
- Stun Spore/Sleep Powder 25s- each
- Poison Powder 10s-

Venomoth
- add String Shot 10s

Persian
- add Night Slash 3x500/15s
- increase speed movement

Arcanine
- increase speed movement
- +1k HP
- add Thunder Fang 1.3k/20s
- Fireball/Fire Fang/Roar 5s-
- Ember/Flamethrower/Fireball/Fire Fang +200dmg
- Tri Flames - new animation - done

Victreebel
- Poison Powder 5s-

Golem
- add Take Down 2.5k/ 25s
- Rollout +100dmg
- Rollout 20s-
- Bulldoze 20s-
- Harden passive 20%

Rapidash
- add Earthshock 1.4k/20s
- add Poison Sting 1.4k/10s
- increase movement speed
- Crusher Stomp 5s-
- ad Growl 25s

Alakazam
- Psy Pulse 2s+
- Psybeam 8s-
- Psywave 3s-
- Confusion 8s-
- Psychic 3s+
- Hypnosis 18s-
- Restore 10s-
 
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Magneton
- add Mirror Shot 1.4k/20s
- Thunder Shock 5s-
- Thunder Wave 5s-
- Sonicboom 5s-
- add Magnet Rise cd 35s (Makes it immune from earth type attacks can be 5 sec/ could be Protection animation)

Dewgong
- replace Headbutt with Bubblebeam 2x800/15s

Hypno
- Psybeam 2s-
- Restore 10s-
- replace Focus with Calm Mind 30s
- add Nightmare 60s
- Dream Eater 10s-

Rhydon
- replace Rock Throw with Rock Slide 3x600/15s

Marowak
- add Growl 20s
- replace Mud Slap with Skull Bash 2.3k/25s

Weezing
- add Cross Poison 25%
- add Smokescreen 25s

Kangaskhan
- add Crusher Stomp Yx600 25s

Seaking
- add Iron Tail 1.3k/10s

Mr Mime
- remake Mimic Wall for 3sqm
- Psyfusion -200dmg

Scyther/Scizor family (due to the fact copies deal damage, it's natural damage might be nerfd)
- Fury Cutter -300dmg
- X-Scissor -300dmg

Pinsir
- add Megahorn 1.6k/20s
- add Close Combat 3x600/25s

Aerodactyl
- Dragon Claw 15s-
- Fear 5s-
- Super Sonic 10s-

Snorlax
- add Defence Curl 30s
- add Lick 10s
- fix Rest so it always heal 100%

Kingler
- add Metal Claw 1.8k/20s
 
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Tauros
- increase movement speed
- add Crusher Stomp 1.1k/35s

Gyarados
- replace Roar with Fear; keep cooldown the same
- Hyper Beam 7s-
- Dragon Breath 5s-
- replace Bubbles with Water Pulse
- add Ice Fang - Level 52 - 1.4k/20s
- add Dragon Dance - Level 65 - 30s - Same as normal rage but last as ultimate agility, can have ultimate champion sprite + rage sprite (combined)
- +1.5k HP

Vaporeon
- add Whirlpool Yx900/30s

Jolteon
- add Spark 1.4k/20s

Flareon
- add Fire Fang 1.4k/20s
- remake Overheat (it suppose to be an aoe move) - it may look like Thunder - when remade increase cd by 10s

Omastar
- add Spikes Cannon - 70 lvl - 3x600/15s
- add Protection 45s (it is not able to learn Reflect)
- replace Rock Throw with Rock Slide - level 70 - 3x500/15s

Kabutops
- replace Bubbles with Bubblebeam 2x800/15s
- add Night Slash - 70 lvl - 3x500/20s

Typhlosion
- add Smokescreen 25s
- add 1.5k HP
- Flamethrower/Flame Wheel/Fire Blast/Raging Blast/Sacred Fire 5s-
- Swift 15s-

Feraligatr
- +2.5k HP
- replace Ice Shards with Ice Fang 2k/20s

Ledian
- replace Harden with Dizzy Punch 1.1k/20s

Ariados
- add Bug Bite 1.1k/10s
 
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Lanturn
- replace Hydro Cannon with Whirlpool Yx1k/30s
- add Aqua Ring 60s
- add Water Pulse 1.1k/20s

Xatu
- Future Sight 90s-
- +1.5k HP
- add Energy Ball 1k/10s
- add Confusion 1.6k/20s
- add Psyshock 2k/30s

Ampharos
- add Iron Tail 1k/10s
- add Tail Whip 3x700/10s
- Growl 5s-
- Thunder +300dmg
- Thunder Punch +400dmg

Bellossom
- replace Poison Powder with Energy Ball 1.3/15s

Azumarill
- add Defence Curl 20s
- +1k HP
- add Iron Tail 1k/10s

Politoed
- add Ice Punch 1.3k/20s
- +1k HP
- Mega Punch 5s-

Jumpluff
- add Energy Ball 1.8k/20s

Sunflora
- add Sleep Powder 25s

Quagsire
- add Yawn 25s
- add Iron Tail 1k/10s
- +2k HP
- replace Bubbles with Bubblebeam 2x600/10s
- add Mud Sport Yx800/20s

Gligar
- replace Sand Attack with Mud Shot 800/10s
 
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Granbull
- add Uproar 1.7k/25s

Delibird
- add Pluck 2x800/15s
- add Roost 45s
- +1k HP

Houndoom
- increase movement speed
- Bite/Ember/Fire Fang +200dmg
- Faint Attack 10s-
- Roar 5s+
- Beat Up 5s-
- replace Magma Storm with Night Daze Yx900/45s

Kingdra
- +2k HP
- add Yawn 20s
- passive rate up
- add Dragon Dance 35s

Donphan
- add Horn Attack 1.6k/10s

Blissey
- -2.5k HP
- remake Healing Wish and Wide Guard so it only heals/buffs other Pokemons, not Blissey itself

Farfetch'd
- add Fury Cutter 2x1.1k/15s
- add Night Slash 3x700/20s
- increase movement speed
- remake Stick Slash so it may do 2 rounds around Farfetch'd

Magcargo
- add Recover 50s
- Harden passive 25%
- add Magic Coat 30s

Dodrio
- increase movement speed
- replace Agility with Growl 20s
 
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Mr Mime
- replace Mimic Wall with Wall Trap (traps enemy inside walls, so you can recover some cooldowns, you and enemy cannot be attacked) 20s

So you guys wanna make a "normal" pokemon, the best psyquic type poke, and what about alaka? You guys always forget him, cuz mime already have the best damage, and now, confusion + this shit wall, no one will never beat him, thats the intention?
Fuck me right?
 

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im think need balance of Jynx no have nathing of life and are pokemon strong need more life points
 

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Transforming the pokes easy catch in hard pokes, need increase the rare pokes = , or now no have rare pokes?? only
stronger.

Exactly! Most of these rebalances are good but some are a JOKE. Give me back my 129712971 UBs I spent on catching my rares!

*About golem's and blastoise's protection = NO WAY IN HELL!
*Mime is already the strongest psychic poke (even stronger than cloned alakazam) u added Mimic. What else? restore, blink? or maybe psyblast? Seriously GTFO. Alakazam should be stronger.
*Disagree with Charizard Buff -.-
*+3k HP for Kingdra? -.-
*Add Crusher Stomp (20s cooldown) to every freaking poke and nerf SNorlax too because its such a common and weak poke.

All you have to do is nerf scizor/umbreon and buff these pokes that seriously need it. That's all

Seriously Pyrokar, I like you but I wish I could slap you right now..
 
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Keep going pyrokar.

In my opinion, too many buffes for charizard.

Also, i'd like to see some love for rhydon, tanky love, since compared to onix and even more to steelix, it is bad.
 
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WHAT DAFUG?!!!!!!!!

Sandslash
- add Pin Missle 3x500/15s

-.- Yes give Earth pokes Poison attack. :O


Parasect

- add Swords Dance 1.1k/20s

Its dance? Nice... I want to see it ! :D


Persian
- add Night Slash 3x500/15s

NEVER *_*

Arcanine
- add Thunder Fang 1.3k/20s

Its fire pokes *_*

Rapidash
- add Earthshock 1.4k/20s
- add Poison Sting 1.4k/10s
- increase movement speed
- Crusher Stomp 5s-

All this attack is very joke.


Hypno
- add Nightmare 60s
- replace Headbutt with Psy Pulse 1k/10s
- Dream Eater 10s-

oooo. Good. If we give it i'm love we <3333333333333 But... Real. Nightmare? Give Psyfusion, Tri Attack, but why PSYCHIC POKES give shit ghost attack?
Dream eater 10 s? Ok <3

Headbutt to Psy Pulse? Never >.< Shit...


Scyther/Scizor family (due to the fact copies deal damage, it's natural damage might be nerfd)
- Fury Cutter -400dmg
- X-Scissor -300dmg

Good idea.



Pinsir
- add Mega Punch 2.1k/15s

Its bug, not fight :X


Omastar
- add Pin Missle 3x500/15s

kkkkk... Next, Poison attack to rock/water pokes... Very badly idea. Who give that genious suggestion :)



Politoed
- add Ice Punch 1.3k/20s
- Mega Punch 5s-

Ice to green frog ( water pokes )? :D
Where its have punch? :(

Houndoom
Maybe 1 s to beat up? Its not good ... Its sux attack -.-



Blissey
- -2.5k HP
- remake Healing Wish and Wide Guard so it only heals/buffs other Pokemons, not Blissey itself

Its good idea ;) Blissey has been most strong than other normal pokes :X

Donphan
- add Horn Attack 1.6k/10s

Where it have corner?


Magcargo
- add Flame Wheel 1k/15s
- add Magic Coat 30s

What the... Magic coat? ;f No comment.

So... summing.
A few good suggestion and too many bad :( Its all what i want say...
 

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Well, first of all, Its a great job the one you've done here Pyro, reading all the suggestions and get them in one thread is a lot of work.

But Imo, there's nothing perfect, so there you have my opinion about a some changes.

Venusaur
- replace Quick Attack with Headbutt
- replace m4 with Synthesis 60s
- replace Leech Seed with Sunny Day 25s (would like to make it an aoe buff)

The first and last changes are okay imo, the problem comes with Synthesis, I don't think that's necesary to add that To venusaur right now, it doesn't have any problem with the actual set of skills.

Charizard
- +700 HP
- Dragon claw cd 5s-
- add Metal Claw 1.8k/20s
- replace Raging Blast with Dragon Breath 1.8k/20s
- Flamethrower/Fireball/Fire Fang/Fire Blast +300 dmg, Ember +100 dmg (due to the lack of one more fire type move)

I dno't think that it's necesary a Boost on charizard's Hp, since it was boosted already, and due the fact of double type now, it gained some resistance quite usefull to its actual disadventages. About the increase damage, Imo it's too much, after all he's loosing an useless skill for something totally usefull, with more damage, range, and new type.

Blastoise
- replace Harden with Protection 45s

This will make this pokemon too OP, right now it's still hold the title as one of the strongest water pokes, adding that skill would make him OP. My suggestion is change the way Harden works, it should be passive on blastoise instead of an active skill


Butterfree
- replace String Shot for Morning Sun 60s

This pokemon is quite fine, Isn't necesary to modify or boost it

Fearow
m1 Peck 1k/10s, m2 Pluck 2x800/15s, m3 Whirlwind 1.8k/15s, m4 Drill Peck 3x700/15s, m5 Wing Attack 1.6k/20s, m6 Tornado 1.8k/35s, m7 Mirror Move 30s, m8 Fly Attack 2.3k/30s, m9 Uproar/Rage passive 15%/20%

In my opinion, Fearow should have the same movement pool as Pidgeot, that means both pokes should got Mirrow move and Roost, there can be a difference Cooldown betwen them, Fearow a shorter CD on mirror move, and Pidgeot a shorter CD on Roost. Actually your suggestion enlarge the difference of power btwen Fearow and pidgeot right now.

Arbok
- add Thunder Fang 1.1k/20s
- add Ice Fang 1.1k/20s
- replace Rage with Underground Yx130/60s

Arbok it's a nice pokemon, his lack of defense and HP makes him useless right in PVP only, suggesting changes on attacks it's useless imo, also, adding 3 new attcks would make him Too "OP", offensivelly speaking, Imo, you should add only 1 skill of those 3 that you mentioned.

Raichu
- replace Electric Storm with Shredder Team/Double Team 60s
- Thunder 5s-
- Thunder Bolt 5s-
- Iron Tail 5s-
- Mega Kick 5s-
- increase movement speed
- +1k HP
- Thunder Punch +200 dmg
- add Tail Whip 3x700/10s

Honestly I don't get the point here.. It's like too much. I'm agreed with the small CD reduction, but Adding a new skill, and replacing an usefull skill with another completely useless it's mad. Just reconsider the CD reduction, and forget the other things.

Arcanine
- increase speed movement
- +1k HP
- add Thunder Fang 1.3k/20s
- Fireball/Fire Fang/Roar 5s-
- Ember/Flamethrower/Fireball/Fire Fang +200dmg

- remake Tri Flames > triple Raging Blast, 3 sqm flame, hope you get my point

Again the same problem imo. If a pokemon get their CD's reduced, the damage shouldn't be increased. And the HP of Arcanine it's okay, so isn't necesary to change it.

Golem
- replace Harden with Protection 45s

I would add something new, instead of Replace harden with protection.

Magneton
- replace Electric Storm with Mirror Shot 1.6k/20s
- Thunder Shock 5s-
- Thunder Wave 5s-
- Sonicboom 5s-

I would suggest to replace Sonicboom with Mirror Shot, or simply add it, Magneton doesn't have any steel type right now, and replacing it with the strongest move on magneton, would be helpless

Hypno
- add Nightmare 60s
- replace Headbutt with Psy Pulse 1k/10s
- Dream Eater 10s-

Adding nightmare would turn him into a monsters, so I'm not agreed, and increasing dream eater to 10 seconds it's useless imo, after all It's a movement that only work when the enemy pokemon it's sleeping, and Hypnosis have 20 secs of CD.

Mr Mime
- replace Mimic Wall with Wall Trap (traps enemy inside walls, so you can recover some cooldowns, you and enemy cannot be attacked) 20s

I'm agreed with chaaps, Mr mime It's okay right now, that will turn him into a monster too.

Lanturn
- add Confuse Ray 20s
- add Aqua Ring 60s
- add Water Pulse 1.1k/20s

Lanturn mainly need a boost on the damage of the current skill pool, instead of just adding attacks to it.

Politoed
- add Ice Punch 1.3k/20s
- +1k HP
- Mega Punch 5s-

The difference betwen Poliwrath and Politoead, it's the fact that politoead has more water moves, adding him that attack would turn him into a Poliwrath with AOE skills.

Kingdra
- +3k HP
- passive rate up

I have a kingdra, and it doesn't lack of HP, and the passive isn't often but that doesn't make him unpowered, It's okay right now.

Blissey
- -2.5k HP
- remake Healing Wish and Wide Guard so it only heals/buffs other Pokemons, not Blissey itself

Again, two negative effects at once would make a great chaos, Just one of those changes should be done, and if it's HP, the Hp should be reduced just 1.5k, 2.5k It's a loot, after all Blissey only have 17k atlvl 130, what's not a lot compared to other pokes (On GBA games, Blissey is one of the pokes that reach the highest ammounts of HP)


Well, That's All.


Warm regards:

Raszagal
 

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Butterfree
- replace String Shot for Morning Sun 60s

Mr Mime
- replace Mimic Wall with Wall Trap (traps enemy inside walls, so you can recover some cooldowns, you and enemy cannot be attacked) 20s
@ Mr mime, this is rather useless don't you think since the enemy will regain its cds too... unless you block it when this spell is used. I prefer that mimic wall is 3 sqm than this, if the enemy can still regain its cds.
@ butterfree. Op pls... morning sun + 3 stuns + giga drain + reflect... do i need to go on?
 
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As I said I agree with most of them but now I also started to think that Morning Sun is too powerful for Butterfree.

Maybe Roost instead of Morning Sun for Butter? That 25% isnt much on him becouse he is weak to many types.
 

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Cut the trolling and point what you think it's wrong. Raszagal's post is a fine example of how to do it.


I think some changes are exaggerated, but Raszagal pointed everything I think.
Blastoise and Golem could have Harden as a passive instead of Protection as move.
I personally dislike the solution for Blissey, but seems the only way.
Charizard and Raichu dont need that much
Butterfree becomes immortal that way
 
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