Rebalance discussions

[Ritcher]

I think rest will make it very op but tbe rest is fine for me

 

[Obreviate]

I think you should to consider an improvement to Magmortar. If we take a look to the "giants" of hoenn (Vire, Pherior and others) he is not so good; He dies easily...
And I know most may disagree, but I really think that the sinnoh pkms now added into the game, should have unpublished movements, different from the others we are already familiar, since they are the 4th generation. I'm not criticizing the work of rebalancer, on the contrary, it has been a beautiful job, which I do not know much (so, i'm only suggesting). But as i was saying about magmortar, I think that his HP should be improved and i think also that you should to consider TM Reflect to his TM learnset.

 

[Jose Antonio]

magmortar its a machine, have 2 stuns and its the poke fire(only fire type) most powerful, if this poke dont do a good job in duels also had a excelent job leveling, the only change i think magmortar need its change smokscreen for fire mantle

 

[glutpwa]

dissagree about fire mantle in magmortar, its good now.

 

[Tsotss]

Maybe remove Flame Charge and add Fire Mantle. Can it help in duel/exp

 

[Angelic]

I made this post with dedication and effort






I beedrill think needs better attacks to lvl,

* as venoshock and X-scissor's


Beedrill

1ºu turn
2ºtwineedle ----- ( change formula)
3ºsword dance
4ºbug bite ------( X-scissor) Back!!
5ºscary face
6ºtoxic spikes
7ºsting gun
8ºroost
9º ???? ------"Add here'' Venoshock'' -----

rage- passive

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Yanmega

1º U turn
2º air slash
3º Nigth slash change x -----------( Night Shade)
4º Wing attack
5º Hypnosis change x ------------( Huricane)
6º tornado
7º Sylver wing
8º Signal beam
9º Bug buzz
10º Roost
Leech life-Passive

ADD: FEINT on tm Learn...

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Furret

1 Quick Attack
2nd Sucker Punch
3rd Fury Swipes
4th scratch ---------- change x--- ( Pursuit)
5th U turn
6º Hyper Voice ------ Change x ----- (Echoed Voice)
7º Under ground
8ºIron tail x ----- -------- Change x -- (Sleep Talk) Need 1 Stun
9th Rest
10th Hone Claws

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Stantler

1º Mega Horn
2nd Double kick
3rd Swift
4th Mega kick
5th giga impact
6º stomp
7th confusion
8ºLast resort ---- Chenge x ------ (Dranning Kiss) and put the Last resort TM Learn
9th Earthquake
10th Trick Room

that this pokemon needs a cure

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pinsir

1º bug bite
2º strugle bug
3º slash ------- Change x -----( Bite) that this pokemon has no stun
4º X- scissor
5º Fury Cutter
6º Faint attack
7º Guillotine
8º Protection
9º Sword dance
10º Close combat

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Gliscore

1º U turn
2º Ice fang
3º Wing attack
4º Knock off -------- Change x-----( Earth Power)
5º Fain attack
6º Sand tomb
7º Underground
8º X-scissor
9º Scary face
10º Sky Uppercut

This pokemon is Earth and currently only has 1 attack "Sand Tomb"

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Jumpluff ( third and final evolution)

1º Energy Ball --------- Change x ---- ( Grass Knock)
2º Razor Leaf
3º Stun Spore
4º Absorb -------- Change x---- (Tornado)
5º Aereal Ace
6º Bounce
7º Grassy terrain
8º Air Slash
9º Cotton Spore ------( Change formul) This attack is as simple String Shot
10º Infestation


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Venomoth

1º Signal Beam
2º Bug bite
3º Silver Wing
4º Struggle Bug ---- Change x---( Confusion) the first rebalancing had it Venomoth,you need to hunt
5º Psychic
6º Venoshock
7º Sleep Power
8º Sludge
9º infestation
10º toxic
Lech life--- passive

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Muk

add more resistance "armor acid"
Put in Tm learn "Earthquake or Fissure

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These changes are meant to improve the Pokemon that most people do not use, because they find it very difficult to raise them level



I hope and the person who is responsible for rebalancing see this



!!!! Regards PPL!!!!!!

 

[Dark Spiritu]

I made this post with dedication and effort






I beedrill think needs better attacks to lvl,

* as venoshock and X-sicczor's


Beedrill

1ºu turn
2ºtwineedle ----- ( change formula)
3ºsword dance
4ºbug bite ------( X-sicczor) Back!!
5ºscary face
6ºtoxic spikes
7ºsting gun
8ºroost
9º? '' Venoshock'' -----

rage- passive

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Yanmega

1º U turn
2º air slash
3º Nigth slash change x -----------( Night Shade)
4º Wing attack
5º Hypnosis change x ------------( Huricane)
6º tornado
7º Sylver wing
8º Signal beam
9º Bug buzz
10º Roost
Leech life-Passive

ADD: FEINT on tm Learn...

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Furret

1 Quick Attack
2nd Sucker Punch
3rd Fury Swipes
4th scratch
5th U turn
6 Hyper Voice
7 Under ground
Iron tail 8 x ----- -------- Change (Sleep Talk) Need 1 Stun
9th Rest
10th Hone Claws

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Stantler

1 Mega Horn
2nd Double kick
3rd Swift
4th Mega kick
5th giga impact
6 stomp
7th confusion
Last resort ---- Chenge 8 x ------ (Dranning Kiss) and put the Last resort TM Learn
9th Earthquake
10th Trick Room

that this pokemon needs a cure

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pinsir

1º bug bite
2º strugle bug
3º slash ------- Change x -----( Bite) that this pokemon has no stun
4º X- scissor
5º Fury Cutter
6º Faint attack
7º Guillotine
8º Protection
9º Sword dance
10º Close combat

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Gliscore

1º U turn
2º Ice fang
3º Wing attack
4º Knock off -------- Change x-----( Earth Power)
5º Fain attack
6º Sand tomb
7º Underground
8º X-scissor
9º Scary face
10º Sky Uppercut

This pokemon is land and currently only has 1 attack "Sand Tomb"

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Jumpluff ( third and final evolution)

1º Energy Ball --------- Change x ---- ( Grass Knock)
2º Razor Leaf
3º Stun Spore
4º Absorb -------- Change x---- (Tornado)
5º Aereal Ace
6º Bounce
7º Grassy terrain
8º Air Slash
9º Cotton Spore ------( Change formul) This attack is as simple String Shot
10º Infestation


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Venomoth

1º Signal Beam
2º Bug bite
3º Silver Wing
4º Struggle Bug ---- Change x---( Confusion) the first rebalancing had it Venomoth,you need to hunt
5º Psychic
6º Venoshock
7º Sleep Power
8º Sludge
9º infestation
10º toxic
Lech life--- passive

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Muk

add more resistance "armor acid"
Put in Tm learn "Earthquake or Fissure

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These changes are meant to improve the Pokemon that most people do not use, because they find it very difficult to raise them level



I hope and the person who is responsible for rebalancing see this



!!!! Regards PPL!!!!!!

I agree with most things, most of the aforementioned Pokemon are limited by the player do not pay attention, so it is difficult to upload level

I hope and see your suggestion

 

[Clen]

I agree with all this

 

[Tsotss]

Add Roar for Gyarados instead Ice Fang. Its really hard to lvl up with Bite only..

 

[Athyla]

Some of the suggestions make a lot of sense.. I like the Beedrill one the most.

 

[Jose Antonio]

aggron need aleast a stun or a protection, maybe change iron claw for iron head or put it protection

 

[Torment Xtreme]

aggron need aleast a stun or a protection, maybe change iron claw for iron head or put it protection

Why does it need that? It has Roar

 

[Himbeere]

I think, Magcargo shouldn't has Protection or Reflect (he can learn reflect). It's mistake, isn't it?

 

[skorpion]

Man some cloneds is very weak

 

[matheo01q]

Man some cloneds is very weak

Maybe change formula psychic?? And nerf skill rolloutin all pokes.

 

[Michalak]

I think, Magcargo shouldn't has Protection or Reflect (he can learn reflect). It's mistake, isn't it?

Not really, and i don't think that magcargo is like op with both skills. This poke got pretty weak skills and bad type (Fire/Rock).

 

[Ludacha]

I think there is one problem with 1/2 type of pokemons

Bug pokemons
Really hard to use that type,it can hunt grass pokes only and still hard...mostly people use their other type bug/FIGHT, bug/STEEL...they should be more resistant on other types

Poison pokemons
Cant remember last time when someone exped poison pokemon,its hard and poison hits are really low
Example i have cloned tentacruel,his water attacks only worthy to hit,or Gengar poison attacks mostly usless
I think they also should be more resistant to other types and give more dmg

 

[Clen]

I think there is one problem with 1/2 type of pokemons

Bug pokemons
Really hard to use that type,it can hunt grass pokes only and still hard...mostly people use their other type bug/FIGHT, bug/STEEL...they should be more resistant on other types

Poison pokemons
Cant remember last time when someone exped poison pokemon,its hard and poison hits are really low
Example i have cloned tentacruel,his water attacks only worthy to hit,or Gengar poison attacks mostly usless
I think they also should be more resistant to other types and give more dmg

I strongly agree, for a long time that should improve and type poison ago


apart from improving the Pokemons of 2 types, as you said
and especially (grass / Posion)

Increase damage posion type


(Poison burn)

I think the posion damage the attack to be more damage, as currently, low 100 to his weakness for time,

I think we should lose 300 per shift to neutral 150

* and his weakness 100- and of course his immunity 0

BUG pokemons TOO (rebalance)

 

[waramus2]

I think poison pokémon should be better too, but adding more HP or DMG isn't the correct way to rebalance them. I think poison type pokes should have another playstyle, for example, Muk could be a tank with a strong poison (500 damage per turn so 1000 to grass?) but weak moves, so it can deal high amounts of damage in more time. Koffing can use this kind of poison + stuns. These are just examples, but I think it's the only hope for poison pokes.

 

[crydoku]

I think poison pokémon should be better too, but adding more HP or DMG isn't the correct way to rebalance them. I think poison type pokes should have another playstyle, for example, Muk could be a tank with a strong poison (500 damage per turn so 1000 to grass?) but weak moves, so it can deal high amounts of damage in more time. Koffing can use this kind of poison + stuns. These are just examples, but I think it's the only hope for poison pokes.

yes you are right, i see some pokemons like arbok has good hp and damage, but really suck for hunt. I think this is the problem of all poison pokemons, they dont have good poison attacks with stun, or moves like protection or reflect.They all need to be better :S and there should be 150+ areas for exp pokes bug/poison.