Rebalance discussions

[Rakun]

Rhydon Know Scary Face but Rhyperior didn't know xD

 

[Tiago Monteiro]

Rhydon Know Scary Face but Rhyperior didn't know xD

Yes sir, cuz Rhyperior loses Scary Face to get Protection, is it that bad?

 

[Teddi14]

Water type pokemons do x 1 dmg to electric type poke, they should do x 1/2 (half dmg)

 

[Piczek007]

They shouldnt :d

 

[Lord Sqnik]

Water type pokemons do x 1 dmg to electric type poke, they should do x 1/2 (half dmg)

G'luck

 

[Teddi14]

So if i want up my electabuzz or somethink ill should go hunt other buzzs xd? Thats actually funny becasue there is no good place to up electric pokes ;f

 

[Teddi14]

G'luck

So if i want up my electabuzz or somethink ill should go hunt other buzzs xd? Thats actually funny becasue there is no good place to up electric pokes ;f

 

[olimek]

@up
metagross is generation III not VI -.-

 

[Abble]

Check this site. Metagros is not resistant for dark&ghost. http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Metagross_(Pokémon)
And here u have screen from this site about metagross effective:

That's the last generation, we don't even have fairy types yet, if we use that as reference it wouldn't be fair to pokemons that are resistent/strong against fairy type because it's not implemented yet (since they lose some power thinking by it's type), so they should be as they are in the second/third generation.

So if i want up my electabuzz or somethink ill should go hunt other buzzs xd? Thats actually funny becasue there is no good place to up electric pokes ;f

It's really easy to lvl up electric pokes at gyarados, for instance.

 

[xkarikx]

Add Iron Defense to Steelix for Harden cuz Steel pokes should have this move.

 

[Tiago Monteiro]

Add Iron Defense to Steelix for Harden cuz Steel pokes should have this move.

Check bulbapedia and tell us which one it learns. Btw, Iron Defense and Harden add both 30% of defense to the pokemon, so there is no reason to change, also we removed it from steelix to remove its sprite with iron defense, so we can save space to other sprite.

 

[Aleks]

Octillery:
Remove scald or waterball and add protection or aqua ring e.e

 

[xkarikx]

Check bulbapedia and tell us which one it learns. Btw, Iron Defense and Harden add both 30% of defense to the pokemon, so there is no reason to change, also we removed it from steelix to remove its sprite with iron defense, so we can save space to other sprite.

Some pokes can't learn moves in bulbapedia but have other skills in PA logic?

 

[Tiago Monteiro]

Some pokes can't learn moves in bulbapedia but have other skills in PA logic?

The logic is that we do our best to follow Bulbapedia and to do pokemons' movesets by there, but if in any case we think any pokemon needs more AoE moves, stuns, or even melees, we will have to find another way to improve the pokemon, but I assure you Bulbapedia is always our first option to do any kind of moveset.

Lemme give you an example:
Ambipom in Bulbapedia:




That's Ambipom in PA:



so my question for you is simple. Would you be able to level an Ambipom if we have done its moveset based only in bulbapedia's moveset, and giving you a pokemon with only Fury Swipes as AoE?

If in any case you find something different from bulbapedia, it means it was needed, not because we wanted. There is not needed to add Iron Defense to Steelix cuz:
1º - It doesn't learn Iron Defense.
2º - It learns another move with the same effect, which adds the same amount of defense.
3º - It let us save one more place to any other sprite, which probably will be used by a most useful one.

I don't want to be rude but, will I need to explain you the same thing for the 3rd time? '-'
Hope you get the logic now.

 

[Skyrus]

Isn't iron defense lasting longer than harden?

 

[Little Raezor]

Isn't iron defense lasting longer than harden?

I hope so because in videogames iron defense is a lot better than harden so it should last longer or have more defense than harden

 

[Torment Xtreme]

Isn't iron defense lasting longer than harden?

Both lasts 10s and protect 30%, we changed it to balance some pokes

 

[olimek]

so what about metagross? change weak ghost and dark to normal?

 

[Sheeper]

Imo metagross should have exactly same resistances as Nintendo developed it, also, it's not some decent poke (as it should be together with tyranitar and dragonite [semi legendaries]), so I can't see any reason to change his weakness/efectivness lol. And as mentioned many times, metagross definitelly needs a buff, it's a bunch of metal with some abilities, nothing else...

 

[crydoku]

Imo metagross should have exactly same resistances as Nintendo developed it, also, it's not some decent poke (as it should be together with tyranitar and dragonite [semi legendaries]), so I can't see any reason to change his weakness/efectivness lol. And as mentioned many times, metagross definitelly needs a buff, it's a bunch of metal with some abilities, nothing else...

i just hope rebalancers can explain us here the reason why they want to keep metagross useless or if they like one of our ideas , i think everyone Here just like them have the right to be listened and the right to have an answer, being Rebalancer doesnt mean they should have all in secret, all pokes and rebalance is a public topic and since they are in charge i invite them to be more social and respecful with any kind of idea, i think they can thanks or modify the comment or reply any idea that shines, just like our last rebalancers have done, guys that really would motivate everyone here that is commenting, you can organiza better to improve the part of player service/social and the comunication we both have player - staff, i saw only tiago is doing that but not so frecuently, if you can do it always, that would be awesome, thanks.

And this is not a cry, complaint, as the professional im in real life, i would like to see some better comunication here, thats the solution for everything.