Rebalance discussions

[xxthefrancisxx]

Good night :b


*Add Blaiziken

Dizzy punch
Smokcreem
Magma Storm

Remove

Growl
Incinerate
Flare blitz

Motive: its attacks is more good for one pokemon fire/fighting



*Swampert

- add proteccion or aqua ring.
- add sand tomb
- add mud sport or super power
- Bite?

remove
- mud shot
- whirpool
- earthquake <- add for tm

motive: one swampert no have proteccion no is swampert very easy stun and killed he...no have reflec :/


*Umbreon

-change night shade for scary face



*Flareon

- Scary face for Smokcreem



*Lickilicky

- add rest or protect

remove one attack

motive... no have reflec.. protect.. is easy killed he.


*togekiss change roost for recover


*Gliscor remove X-scizor and add in tm... or knoff out, change for guillotine



* Slowking, Alakazam, removeone good atack and add mind boost & kinesis. its pokemon no have much life


*Tangela Family, Bellosom add atack grass heal in area (ingrain)...need more pokemons heal in area alone blisey, clefable, wigly have heal for other pokemon...

* Steelix change harden for Iron Defense is metal pokemon .-. remove iron tail, fire fang.. and add Scary face... no have nothing stun and scary face is one real atack steelix


Giga impac need more damage :/ is very sux damage have

thanks for you time and I'm go sleep srry for english :'c

 

[Little Raezor]

I think Metagross should have a better attack damage because is really hard to lvl up, he has 3 area attacks but psychic and meteor mash make really low damage, since he is steel/psychic u can think about a metagross with earthquake and lvl up at poison pokemons but u said that pokemons weak to fire/rock have earthquake nerffed, so its not a good option anyway.

If u dont want to increase his attack damage maybe confusion or another area move (type psychic) not necessary stun can help to have a better metagros and not so hard to lvl up

 

[Cesittos]

Is better if you give us an argument about why should be added to others pokes.

How many healers do we have now? Why an unique grass poke got the ability? Better ban the ability this way.

Bellossom, Tangela, Tangrowth and maybe others that I dont remember now are going to be rejected. Sunflora will probably double the price and everybody will try to get one GIVING UP the others. Im kinda sure about that, cause sunflora has nice damaging moves now + ingrain healing.

 

[Torment Xtreme]

How many healers do we have now? Why an unique grass poke got the ability? Better ban the ability this way.

Bellossom, Tangela, Tangrowth and maybe others that I dont remember now are going to be rejected. Sunflora will probably double the price and everybody will try to get one GIVING UP the others. Im kinda sure about that, cause sunflora has nice damaging moves now + ingrain healing.

I'm pretty sure that there aren't Sunfloras 130 (just Elmaz has 1), so i doubt you know about its damage.
Also we don't care about prices and is not hard to get this poke, so it won't be expensive.

 

[Cesittos]

I'm pretty sure that there aren't Sunfloras 130 (just Elmaz has 1), so i doubt you know about its damage.
Also we don't care about prices and is not hard to get this poke, so it won't be expensive.

I wish u had an argument INSTEAD OF an arrogant opinion.

Good night.

 

[Zeratosteal]

Ambipom
"Doubleslap", level = 70, cooldown = 5
"Multi-Slap", level = 70, cooldown = 20
"Astonish", level = 70, cooldown = 30
"Swift", level = 70, cooldown = 15
"Knock Off", level = 72, cooldown = 20
"Fury Swipes", level = 70, cooldown = 20
"Metronome", level = 70, cooldown = 30
"Pursuit", level = 70, cooldown = 30
"Hone Claws", level = 74, cooldown = 25
"Protection", level = 80, cooldown = 50

Remove protection and add anothers dmg attacks. Deal max 4-4'5k dmg vs normal poke using all attacks. Example: Today test Ambipom and Raticate vs Togetic of friend: Raticate is more good than Ambipom in dmg. Bad for lvling and bad for duel. No dmg compare to other pokes.

PD: Curiosity, i can't sell this poke because people say this poke is bad

 

[kenan321]

Psyshock -m1
Confusion-m2
Psychic-m3
Vaccum Wave-m4 /delete vaccum add leaf blade or psyfusion for exp
Focus blast -m5
Slash-m6
Stored power-m7 /add maybe tri atk
Heal pulse -m8
Close combat-m9
Psycho cut -m10
With this moves i think Gallade won't be so op and won't be bad this is my opinion

 

[Jertusz]

Add reflect to magmar tm learnset. Now is great to exp but electabuzz is similar poke as magmar and it can learn reflect so i think magmar should be able to learn reflect too.

 

[Vitamina]

guy has change Pidgeot this very bad, the one before was a thousand times better, not like that pidgeot.esta garbage, take the best of it atacks

 

[Jertusz]

guy has change Pidgeot this very bad, the one before was a thousand times better, not like that pidgeot.esta garbage, take the best of it atacks

This:

Post here your rebalance suggestion/discussion WITH ARGUMENTS.

 

[Mundisse]

Cloned Alakazam 130

• Psyfusion

13:06 Your Cloned Alakazam deals 2142 damage to a Cloned Gengar.
13:06 Your Cloned Alakazam deals 2138 damage to a Cloned Gengar.

Alakazam 130

• Psyfusion

12:55 Your Alakazam deals 2148 damage to a Cloned Gengar.
12:55 Your Alakazam deals 2142 damage to a Cloned Gengar.

1) as you said cloned pokemon are a little strong than normal, i would have to increase damage at least 10% of cloned

2) Remove Psycho Cut and add Reflect from Wobbuffet as it was before. // is a defensive pokemon

3) Remove Stun from Dragon Rush and add Stun on Outrage. Dragonite. it makes no difference in pvp, and it is better to level up

4) Change Dragon Rage for Dragon Fury. Dragonite. // Like old

5) Remove Psyshock from passive and put in set list. Alakazam, ex. Psychock - m10 - level 75 - 25s

6) Add Find Hole in Steelix and Rhyperior. // Rhy ->he have a drill on face, Steelix -> big metal snake

7) Remove underground of Steelix. // completely useles, short duration would be better leave it without one move.

8) it was difficult level up Rhydon why remove Rock tomb from he? //

 

[xxthefrancisxx]

you remove protection ambipom he is easy killed .... he no need remove protection ... he need change one atack for double team

 

[Vitamina]

pokemon bad to rebalance

umbreon're also bad / cloned Pidgeot / sleep power draw of Exeggutor / Tentacruel also ta very bad.
the most apelão flying pokemon game is skarmory
Noctowl worsened / not to mention the Steelix.
I'm angry because it overpaid a cloned Pidgeot focused on leveling it and then it gets bad, and it was one of my best pokes left to level many Pokemon porcausa the geot cloned

 

[Grayfoox]

I only see cries about gallade, but gallade is an psychic fight poke... it must have good physical damage and it's fine as it is now

I only want to cry about water pulse, it should has more damage area... just 2 squares is too short, maybe 3 could be fine

 

[Makarno.-]

Cloned Alakazam 130

• Psyfusion

13:06 Your Cloned Alakazam deals 2142 damage to a Cloned Gengar.
13:06 Your Cloned Alakazam deals 2138 damage to a Cloned Gengar.

Alakazam 130

• Psyfusion

12:55 Your Alakazam deals 2148 damage to a Cloned Gengar.
12:55 Your Alakazam deals 2142 damage to a Cloned Gengar.

1) as you said cloned pokemon are a little strong than normal, i would have to increase damage at least 10% of cloned

2) Remove Psycho Cut and add Reflect from Wobbuffet as it was before. // is a defensive pokemon

3) Remove Stun from Dragon Rush and add Stun on Outrage. Dragonite. it makes no difference in pvp, and it is better to level up

4) Change Dragon Rage for Dragon Fury. Dragonite. // Like old

5) Remove Psyshock from passive and put in set list. Alakazam, ex. Psychock - m10 - level 75 - 25s

6) Add Find Hole in Steelix and Rhyperior. // Rhy ->he have a drill on face, Steelix -> big metal snake

7) Remove underground of Steelix. // completely useles, short duration would be better leave it without one move.

8) it was difficult level up Rhydon why remove Rock tomb from he? //

@Cloned Alakazam vs Alakazam: As I've said before, their Psyfusion have same damage, but Confusion, Psychic, Psy Pulse, Psybeam and Psyshock have at least 200~300 extra damage x1 on Cloned, and it also has more HP.

@Wobbuffet: Trust me we have tested it many times with Reflect. There were no chances to avoid it OPness if it had Reflect.

@Dragon Rush vs Outrage: Outrage is not only learned by Dragonite, also Granbull and Kangaskhan. If I add stun to that move again, I would have to rebalance the others again. I know right know Dragonite is a little bit hard to level up, we will see what we do about it, BUT, don't dare to say it sucks in PVP, because if it's properly used, and casting safe guard in a good momment, it's a killing machine. Also as advice, leveling up killing pokemons in bundles is not the only fast way to level up. Dragonite rapes Venusaurs, north of Olivine and can have 150k/h exp after level 100.

@Dragon Fury vs Dragon Dance: Will be tested.

@Psyshock to moveset: We will test too, but I doubt it. Right now Alakazam, even without Kinesis is one of the strongest pokemons. It's just it requieres high skills to use it, so not everyone is getting 100% of its potential yet.

@Find Hole to Steelix: I'm not in charge of pokemon abilities, and I can't change them. However, me and the rebalance team have been writting a list of abilities that we should add to some pokemons, and will be given to any administrator to implement them.

@Underground in Steelix: PVP have changed. You don't have to learn only an attack order anymore, or make a chain of stuns. PVP now is also reactive. It means that to get 100% of the pokemon power, the trainer (player) will have to react to the circumstances of the duel. You say Underground is useless and short duration? Well, let me explain like this. Underground = Protect but with damage. How OP does it sound? Anyways, Protect is 7s and Underground 4s, wich is 2 turns, and awesome to avoid attacks like Hydro Cannons, Outrage, Doom Desire, Earthquakes, Brines, etc. Steelix is not a puree power beast now, also requieres skills.

@Rhyperior: I will check what can be done about Rhyperior. Anyways, I will tell you that the experience given by Electric pokemons have been boosted aswell as poison pokes. As far as I know, Rhyperior is also ground type and has Magnitude wich is really strong. Maybe you could try electric powerplant and tell me how it goes.


Regards and thanks for your suggestions,
Makarno.-

 

[Grayfoox]

Mako, could you tell us which wild pokes have been improved in the experience given?

 

[berollo]

Magmar 108 deals 3-3.2 damage from Flamethower, Magmortar 110 deals 3.5~ from Dual Flamethower. In my opinion Magmortar should have more dmg from it like
200-300dmg+. becouse it is evo of Magmar and should deals little more than Magmar. What is Your opinion ?

 

[Grayfoox]

Magmar 108 deals 3-3.2 damage from Flamethower, Magmortar 110 deals 3.5~ from Dual Flamethower. In my opinion Magmortar should have more dmg from it like
200-300dmg+. becouse it is evo of Magmar and should deals little more than Magmar. What is Your opinion ?

but you have another attacks that are stronger than this... don't focus in 1 attack

 

[Lord Malboro]

Add Iron Defence on Steelix, all metal Pokémon has this attack now because not Steelix?


I Use Google Translate.

 

[Makarno.-]

Mako, could you tell us which wild pokes have been improved in the experience given?

All electric, ice, poison, dark and slightly rock pokemons. It was to give better chances for fighting, ground and steel pokemons to level not always in the same places. About dark pokes it was specific for Heracross, but we don't have much good dark respawns, so for heracross you should try Cianwood glaciar, there are lots of cloysters, dewgongs, sneasel (dark/ice, so dual weakness) and 1 or 2 Lapras.