Cloyster

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Sup

Seriously, seems we have a problem when we are talking about this pkm in hunt terms (i know about not every single pkm should be able to hunt and not every single pkm...), but it is not only in hunt terms, but even in which any other one terms, so, i guess it is worthy of a reviewing. Cloyster has only two AoE moves (just one of them are good (Blizzard), and good enough if you have a good move handling) and its moveset list is basically full of target moves. Even if it has both of the two more usuable TMs on water pkms (water pulse and hydropump), cloyster still ends up being a waste. I don't remember if it was in your last rebalance list. But I'd like to ask you for a reviewing on cloyster, if possible. Anyway, I also would like to leave here a possible suggestion.

Currently cloyster moveset.

Moves:
Powder Snow - m1 - level 50 - 10s
Icicle Spear - m2 - level 50 - 15s
Clamp - m3 - level 50 - 10s
Bubblebeam - m4 - level 50 - 10s
Hydro Cannon - m5 - level 50 - 25s
Protection - m6 - level 50 - 60s
Sheer Cold - m7 - level 52 - 45s
Whirlpool - m8 - level 55 - 30s
Aurora Beam - m9 - level 60 - 25s
Blizzard - m10 - level 70 - 55s

* My suggestion about an improvement on its water side is:
- Replacing Hydro Cannon by Water Spout and Replacing Whirlpool by Aqua Pound.

For sure, it would bring an amazing improvement to its water side making it kinda more independent on its own moveset. And both these movements are perfectly embedded in both situations (hunting and dueling). I thought, maybe, you might replace clamp by aqua jet too. Anyway, this is a sub suggestion.

* About its ice side, i've thought in smth like:
- Replacing Blizzard by Hail and Sheer cold by freeze dry.

I forgot to mention... about the stuns. It has only one stunning move, and it works by the target way (sheer cold). Would be interisting to reconsider it applying a better stun which might supply both situation (hunt and duel).

The proposal cloyster.

Moves:
Powder Snow - m1 - level 50 - 10s
Icicle Spear - m2 - level 50 - 15s
Clamp - m3 - level 50 - 10s / Maybe by aqua jet - 20s
Bubblebeam - m4 - level 50 - 10s
Water Spout - m5 - level 50 - 15s
Protection - m6 - level 50 - 60s
Freezy Dry - m7 - level 52 - 35/40s
Aqua Pound - m8 - level 55 - 40s
Aurora Beam - m9 - level 60 - 25s
Hail - m10 - level 70 - 55s

I think that this would not escape the parameters used by you on rebalance (the amount of AoE moves, the amount of stun moves, etc.). And for sure would make cloyster kinda more handleable in relation of its current uncertain AoE moves.

 

[ElQloLoko]

Agree, Cloyster it's Water/Ice, so should have stronger water spells.
Also would be great to put Toxic Spikes over there, it's like his "Primordial Spell", like a Megahorn of Rhydon.

 

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4. Don't bump your thread more often than once per 72 hours.

passed for at least 1 week ... so, bump?!

 

[ElQloLoko]

Relax, they might be bussy atm; I have like 4 rebalance posts waiting for answer xD

 

[Raissa]

passed for at least 1 week ... so, bump?!

we're busy with other stuff at the moment, so nothing related to rebalance will be done before november.

 

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I've read in a thread that you have applied some change to a certain pkm, btw, if you allow me, i would like to bump some suggestions, one of them is that, about cloyster. thank you 0/

 

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Currently, I've read that some changes are coming in few days, might you say something about cloyster? Do you have smth for it?

 

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So, do you have smth for it?

 

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c'mon, i've told about cloyster since october 9, 2017 .... not forcing , demanding or anything else, i asked for please for a review on it ...