Hi. I would like to understand better why some Legendary/Mythic pokes have buff on dmg (sometimes great buff) and some others dont.
Before I disclose dmg of them, I will post here what is conventioned as "standard" damage for each strong aoe attack mechanic (considering super effective).
Spoiler:
Lava Plume-like: 2-2,3k (random nr of hits)
Blast Burner-like: 2x3k = 6k
Flame Blitz-lke: 3x2k = 6k
Fiery Tornado-like: 3x2k = 6k
Burning Jealousy-like: 2.6k (random nr of hits)
Magma Storm or Ice Shards-like: 6x1k = 6k
Breakwind Storm-like: 1x6k = 6k
Hail (unique mechanic): 2x3k = 6k
Fire Lash-like: 1x6k = 6k
Searing Shot-like: 2x3k = 6k
Bitter Malice-like: 4x1.5k = 6k
Zap Cannonade: 2x3k = 6k
Shadow End: 4x1.5k = 6k (couldnt match it with any other mechanic but its not very different from bitter malice for ex)
Now the dmg of the pokes
Spoiler:
Calyrex: 18:27 Your Calyrex deals 2638 damage to a Hitmonlee. (Light Screen - Burning Jealousy-like: standard dmg)
18:27 Your Calyrex deals 2026 damage to a Hitmonlee. (Future Spin - Fiery Tornado-like: standard dmg)
Shiny Calyrex: 18:29 Your Shiny Calyrex deals 2828 damage to a Hitmonlee. (Light Screen - Burning Jealousy-like: standard dmg + 100 base dmg translating to 7,5% buff for being shiny)
18:31 Your Shiny Calyrex deals 2002 damage to a Hitmonlee. (Psyblast - Lava Plume-like: lowest standard damage, no shiny buff due to not being in normal version moveset)
Glastrier:
18:33 Your Glastrier deals 2014 damage to a Dugtrio. (Blizzard - Lava Plume-like: lowest standard damage)
18:33 Your Glastrier deals 2016 damage to a Dugtrio. (Hail: standard damage)
Shiny Glastrier: 18:35 Your Shiny Glastrier deals 1116 damage to a Dugtrio. (Ice Shards: standard dmg due to not being on normal version moveset + 50 base dmg on each hit translating to 10% buff for being legendary) 18:36 Your Shiny Glastrier deals 2206 damage to a Dugtrio. (Blizzard - Lava Plume-like: lowest standard damage + 100 base dmg translating to 10% buff for being shiny)
Spectrier: 18:39 Your Spectrier deals 2024 damage to a Hypno. (Shadow Storm - Lava Plume-like: lowest standard damage)
18:39 Your Spectrier deals 3014 damage to a Hypno. (Shadow Blast - Blast Buner-like: standard dmg)
Shiny Spectrier: 18:40 Your Shiny Spectrier deals 2222 damage to a Hypno. (Shadow Storm - Lava Plume-like: lowest standard damage + 100 base dmg translating to 10% buff for being shiny)
18:40 Your Shiny Spectrier deals 3218 damage to a Hypno. (Shadow Blast - Blast Buner-like: standard dmg + 100 base dmg on each hit translating to 6,6% buff for being shiny)
Ice Rider Calyrex: 18:43 Your Calyrex deals 2028 damage to a Vileplume. (Future Spin - Fiery Tornado-like: standard dmg)
18:43 Your Calyrex deals 2012 damage to a Vileplume. (Blizzard - Lava Plume-like: lowest standard damage)
Shiny Ice Rider Calyrex: 18:45 Your Shiny Calyrex deals 2626 damage to a Vileplume. Light Screen - Burning Jealousy-like: standard dmg, no buff for not being on normal version moveset)
18:45 Your Shiny Calyrex deals 2212 damage to a Vileplume. (Blizzard - Lava Plume-like: lowest standard damage + buff for being shiny)
Shadow Rider Calyrex: 18:49 Your Calyrex deals 2004 damage to a Gengar. (Future Spin - Fiery Tornado-like: standard dmg)
18:49 Your Calyrex deals 2010 damage to a Gengar. (Shadow Storm - Lava Plume-like: lowest standard damage)
Shiny Shadow Rider Calyrex 18:50 Your Shiny Calyrex deals 2626 damage to a Gengar. (Light Screen - Burning Jealousy-like: standard dmg, no buff for not being on normal version moveset)
18:50 Your Shiny Calyrex deals 2216 damage to a Gengar. (Shadow Storm - Lava Plume-like: lowest standard damage + 10% buff for being shiny)
Phione: 18:52 Your Phione deals 3018 damage to a Dugtrio. (Liquidation - Searing Shot-like: standard dmg)
18:52 Your Phione deals 2210 damage to a Dugtrio. (Rain Dance - Lava Plume-like: lowest standard dmg + 10% buff from rainy weather triggered by attack [shouldnt be considered])
Victini 18:55 Your Victini deals 2206 damage to a Delibird. (Fiery Tornado: standard dmg + 100 base dmg on each hit translating to 10% buff for being mythical)
18:55 Your Victini deals 3214 damage to a Delibird. (Blast Burner: standard dmg + 100 base dmg on each hit translating to 6,6% buff for being mythical)
Heatran: 19:05 Your Heatran deals 1216 damage to a Glalie. (Magma Storm: standard dmg + 100 base dmg on each hit translating to 20% buff for being legendary)
19:05 Your Heatran deals 2832 damage to a Glalie. (Steel Roller - Burning Jealousy-like: standard dmg + 100 base dmg on each hit translating to 7,5% buff for being legendary)
Zarude: 19:14 Your Zarude deals 1424 damage to a Slowbro. (Darkest Lariat - Ice Shards-like: standard dmg + 200 base dmg on each hit translating to motherfucking 40% buff for being mythical)
19:14 Your Zarude deals 3034 damage to a Slowbro. (Bloom Doom - Burning Jealousy-like: standard dmg + 200 base dmg on each hit translating to 15% buff for being mythical)
Magearna: 19:17 Your Magearna deals 6824 damage to a Crabominable. (Fleur Cannon - Fire Lash-like: standard dmg + 100 base dmg translating to 3,3% buff from being mythical + 10% boost from Soul-Heart ability)
19:25 Your Magearna deals 3518 damage to a Crabominable. (Shift Gear - Blast Burner-like: standard dmg + 100 base dmg on each hit translating to 6,6% buff from being mythical + 10% boost from Soul-Heart ability)
Zeraora: 19:31 Your Zeraora deals 1520 damage to an Alomomola. (Plasma Fists - Bitter Malice-like: standard dmg) 19:32 Your Zeraora deals 3242 damage to an Alomomola. (Zap Cannonade: standard dmg + 100 base dmg on each hit for being mythical)
Shiny Zearora: 19:36 Your Shiny Zeraora deals 1716 damage to an Alomomola. (Plasma Fists - Bitter Malice-like: standard dmg + 100 base dmg on each hit translating to 13,3% buff on for being shiny) 19:36 Your Shiny Zeraora deals 3434 damage to an Alomomola. (Zap Cannonade: standard dmg + 100 base dmg on each hit for being mythical + 100 base dmg on each hit for being shiny) 19:36 Your Shiny Zeraora deals 2022 damage to an Alomomola. (Electric Storm - Lava Plume-like: lowest standard dmg due to not having on normal version moveset, btw Zearora Electric Storm's dmg is 2.2k xd)
Marshadow: 19:39 Your Marshadow deals 2022 damage to a Linoone. (Force Palm - Lava Plume-like: lowest standard dmg)
19:40 Your Marshadow deals 1520 damage to a Hypno. (Shadow End: standard dmg)
Shiny Marshadow: 19:44 Your Shiny Marshadow deals 2030 damage to a Linoone. (Force Palm - Lava Plume-like: lowest standard dmg)
19:43 Your Shiny Marshadow deals 1712 damage to a Hypno. ((Shadow End: standard dmg + 100 base dmg on each hit tranlating to 13,3% buff for being shiny)
Darkrai: 19:49 Your Darkrai deals 6462 damage to a Hypno. (Dark Void - Breakwind Storm-like: standard dmg + 200 base dmg tranlating to 6,6% buff for being mythical) 19:49 Your Darkrai deals 2032 damage to a Hypno. (Shadow Storm - Lava Plume-like: lowest standard dmg)
Melmetal: 20:03 Your Melmetal deals 3006 damage to a Glalie. (Shift Gear - Blast Burner-like: standard dmg)
20:03 Your Melmetal deals 2010 damage to a Glalie. (Metallic Rush - Fiery Tornado-like: standard dmg)
Shaymin: 20:04 Your Shaymin deals 3212 damage to a Greninja. (Leaf Storm - Blast Burner-like: standard dmg + 100 base dmg on each hit tranlasting to 6,6% buff for being mythical)
20:04 Your Shaymin deals 2208 damage to a Greninja. (Metallic Rush - Fiery Tornado-like: standard dmg + 100 base dmg on each hit translating to 10% buff for being mythical)
There are some more special pokes like Elder Zard, C Onix, Red Gya, Ash Greninja, Golden Rhydon, Big Cruel, Big Onix etc but I stuck to the canon mythical/legendary ones.. but I think same should apply to them
Its clear to me that few of them have correct buff (green), some are overly buffed (blue) and some should have its dmg improved (red). I know in some cases we have abilities that buff atks like Reckless and Soul-Heart but IMO this shouldnt be considered cause all pokes have abilities (f Darkrai ) and each ability yields a benefit, so you shouldnt take this into account just cause some of them impact directly on dmg
Last but not least, I'd like to suggest that u change this policy of adding 100 base dmg to each hit of the attack as a buff for being shiny or legendary or mythical or cloned or special or whatever. Cause it creates big distortions on actual improvements. For example Adding 100 base dmg on each hit of atks like Ice Shards or Magma Storm means a buff of 20% (600/500) overall. As for adding 100 base dmg to attacks like Breakwind Storm means a buff of 3% (3100/3000). Increasing 10% dmg makes much more sense
Hope u at least read and think about what I've wrote cause it took me some time to do it and its very frustrating to see how some pokes should be much stronger than currently are. Best regards
I could say I totally agree, but then I would have to say that I've read everything and also understood the maths, but I'm too noob/lazy for that.
So, I want to colaborate with this topic with 2 statements:
- nerd;
- I trust demz, change it plx.
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Idk, but maybe some of them got protection to keep them hitting more attacks for a longer time, while others have shitty defense or cure, so they don't last much attacking.
Also some of them got many weakness, so in order to balance, they get better damages, it's hard to make one formula based only on damage just because they are more rare. Many aspects must be considered when creating Pokemons moveset, it's also a matter of not having only one unique way of creating pokes moveset and damage
Idk, but maybe some of them got protection to keep them hitting more attacks for a longer time, while others have shitty defense or cure, so they don't last much attacking.
Also some of them got many weakness, so in order to balance, they get better damages, it's hard to make one formula based only on damage just because they are more rare. Many aspects must be considered when creating Pokemons moveset, it's also a matter of not having only one unique way of creating pokes moveset and damage
Im not saying what u said necessarily doesnt make sense but it doenst apply in this context. For example, Ice Rider Calyrex has 6 weakenesses and only 2 resistances, yet its dmg is standard. Zarude on the other hand has one more weakeness (7) but has 6 resistances and 1 immunity (and Leaf Guard) and yet has this op dmg. The only downside is that it doesnt have protection, but has very good heal.
Other pokes with "correct" dmg:
- Heatran (3 weaknesses, 9 fucking resistances, 1 immunity, protection, pulling atk that u can combo with any stun u wish to add as tm)
- Victini: 5 weaknesses, 7 resistances, magic coat, good stun (v-create) that u can combo with fiery tornado
- Shaymin: 5 weaknesses, 4 resistances, floral healing (longest protection and also heals dmg taken instead)
Now if u look at Darkrai, it has endure which is useless to pve and prevents it from having reflect on tm learnset, its stun (hypnosis) doesnt deal dmg and requires target and yet its dmg is shitty. 3 weakenesses, 2 resistances and 1 immunity
Some might say "oh but its good for duel" well who cares most ppl in game doesnt do pvp so find a balance between being good at pvp and not being a complete piece of garbage on everything else cause it takes a hell of an effort to get it. And speaking pvp-wise changing dmg of atks with 45-50s cd doesnt influence that much
Yeah but not only. Horses and Calyrex too, Reckless for Glastrier and Ice Rider make up a bit but IMO not enough, its like they're being punished for having ability that directly impacts on dmg. Same for Melmetal with Berserk. Zeraora and shiny also have no protection (quick guard useless for pve too), has 2 good aoe stuns though, but dmg should be a bit higher too. Phione is same lvl of joke as Darkrai. Marshadow and shiny have incredible moveset and good balance between weaknesses and resistances/immunities but its nothing special when compared to other regular pokes. For example Shiny Milotic or Giga Kingler or Sh Umbreon have incredible moveset and op dmg. List goes on and on
Hi. I would like to understand better why some Legendary/Mythic pokes have buff on dmg (sometimes great buff) and some others dont.
Before I disclose dmg of them, I will post here what is conventioned as "standard" damage for each strong aoe attack mechanic (considering super effective).
Spoiler:
Lava Plume-like: 2-2,3k (random nr of hits)
Blast Burner-like: 2x3k = 6k
Flame Blitz-lke: 3x2k = 6k
Fiery Tornado-like: 3x2k = 6k
Burning Jealousy-like: 2.6k (random nr of hits)
Magma Storm or Ice Shards-like: 6x1k = 6k
Breakwind Storm-like: 1x6k = 6k
Hail (unique mechanic): 2x3k = 6k
Fire Lash-like: 1x6k = 6k
Searing Shot-like: 2x3k = 6k
Bitter Malice-like: 4x1.5k = 6k
Zap Cannonade: 2x3k = 6k
Shadow End: 4x1.5k = 6k (couldnt match it with any other mechanic but its not very different from bitter malice for ex)
Now the dmg of the pokes
Spoiler:
Calyrex: 18:27 Your Calyrex deals 2638 damage to a Hitmonlee. (Light Screen - Burning Jealousy-like: standard dmg)
18:27 Your Calyrex deals 2026 damage to a Hitmonlee. (Future Spin - Fiery Tornado-like: standard dmg)
Shiny Calyrex: 18:29 Your Shiny Calyrex deals 2828 damage to a Hitmonlee. (Light Screen - Burning Jealousy-like: standard dmg + 100 base dmg translating to 7,5% buff for being shiny)
18:31 Your Shiny Calyrex deals 2002 damage to a Hitmonlee. (Psyblast - Lava Plume-like: lowest standard damage, no shiny buff due to not being in normal version moveset)
Glastrier:
18:33 Your Glastrier deals 2014 damage to a Dugtrio. (Blizzard - Lava Plume-like: lowest standard damage)
18:33 Your Glastrier deals 2016 damage to a Dugtrio. (Hail: standard damage)
Shiny Glastrier: 18:35 Your Shiny Glastrier deals 1116 damage to a Dugtrio. (Ice Shards: standard dmg due to not being on normal version moveset + 50 base dmg on each hit translating to 10% buff for being legendary) 18:36 Your Shiny Glastrier deals 2206 damage to a Dugtrio. (Blizzard - Lava Plume-like: lowest standard damage + 100 base dmg translating to 10% buff for being shiny)
Spectrier: 18:39 Your Spectrier deals 2024 damage to a Hypno. (Shadow Storm - Lava Plume-like: lowest standard damage)
18:39 Your Spectrier deals 3014 damage to a Hypno. (Shadow Blast - Blast Buner-like: standard dmg)
Shiny Spectrier: 18:40 Your Shiny Spectrier deals 2222 damage to a Hypno. (Shadow Storm - Lava Plume-like: lowest standard damage + 100 base dmg translating to 10% buff for being shiny)
18:40 Your Shiny Spectrier deals 3218 damage to a Hypno. (Shadow Blast - Blast Buner-like: standard dmg + 100 base dmg on each hit translating to 6,6% buff for being shiny)
Ice Rider Calyrex: 18:43 Your Calyrex deals 2028 damage to a Vileplume. (Future Spin - Fiery Tornado-like: standard dmg)
18:43 Your Calyrex deals 2012 damage to a Vileplume. (Blizzard - Lava Plume-like: lowest standard damage)
Shiny Ice Rider Calyrex: 18:45 Your Shiny Calyrex deals 2626 damage to a Vileplume. Light Screen - Burning Jealousy-like: standard dmg, no buff for not being on normal version moveset)
18:45 Your Shiny Calyrex deals 2212 damage to a Vileplume. (Blizzard - Lava Plume-like: lowest standard damage + buff for being shiny)
Shadow Rider Calyrex: 18:49 Your Calyrex deals 2004 damage to a Gengar. (Future Spin - Fiery Tornado-like: standard dmg)
18:49 Your Calyrex deals 2010 damage to a Gengar. (Shadow Storm - Lava Plume-like: lowest standard damage)
Shiny Shadow Rider Calyrex 18:50 Your Shiny Calyrex deals 2626 damage to a Gengar. (Light Screen - Burning Jealousy-like: standard dmg, no buff for not being on normal version moveset)
18:50 Your Shiny Calyrex deals 2216 damage to a Gengar. (Shadow Storm - Lava Plume-like: lowest standard damage + 10% buff for being shiny)
Phione: 18:52 Your Phione deals 3018 damage to a Dugtrio. (Liquidation - Searing Shot-like: standard dmg)
18:52 Your Phione deals 2210 damage to a Dugtrio. (Rain Dance - Lava Plume-like: lowest standard dmg + 10% buff from rainy weather triggered by attack [shouldnt be considered])
Victini 18:55 Your Victini deals 2206 damage to a Delibird. (Fiery Tornado: standard dmg + 100 base dmg on each hit translating to 10% buff for being mythical)
18:55 Your Victini deals 3214 damage to a Delibird. (Blast Burner: standard dmg + 100 base dmg on each hit translating to 6,6% buff for being mythical)
Heatran: 19:05 Your Heatran deals 1216 damage to a Glalie. (Magma Storm: standard dmg + 100 base dmg on each hit translating to 20% buff for being legendary)
19:05 Your Heatran deals 2832 damage to a Glalie. (Steel Roller - Burning Jealousy-like: standard dmg + 100 base dmg on each hit translating to 7,5% buff for being legendary)
Zarude: 19:14 Your Zarude deals 1424 damage to a Slowbro. (Darkest Lariat - Ice Shards-like: standard dmg + 200 base dmg on each hit translating to motherfucking 40% buff for being mythical)
19:14 Your Zarude deals 3034 damage to a Slowbro. (Bloom Doom - Burning Jealousy-like: standard dmg + 200 base dmg on each hit translating to 15% buff for being mythical)
Magearna: 19:17 Your Magearna deals 6824 damage to a Crabominable. (Fleur Cannon - Fire Lash-like: standard dmg + 100 base dmg translating to 3,3% buff from being mythical + 10% boost from Soul-Heart ability)
19:25 Your Magearna deals 3518 damage to a Crabominable. (Shift Gear - Blast Burner-like: standard dmg + 100 base dmg on each hit translating to 6,6% buff from being mythical + 10% boost from Soul-Heart ability)
Zeraora: 19:31 Your Zeraora deals 1520 damage to an Alomomola. (Plasma Fists - Bitter Malice-like: standard dmg) 19:32 Your Zeraora deals 3242 damage to an Alomomola. (Zap Cannonade: standard dmg + 100 base dmg on each hit for being mythical)
Shiny Zearora: 19:36 Your Shiny Zeraora deals 1716 damage to an Alomomola. (Plasma Fists - Bitter Malice-like: standard dmg + 100 base dmg on each hit translating to 13,3% buff on for being shiny) 19:36 Your Shiny Zeraora deals 3434 damage to an Alomomola. (Zap Cannonade: standard dmg + 100 base dmg on each hit for being mythical + 100 base dmg on each hit for being shiny) 19:36 Your Shiny Zeraora deals 2022 damage to an Alomomola. (Electric Storm - Lava Plume-like: lowest standard dmg due to not having on normal version moveset, btw Zearora Electric Storm's dmg is 2.2k xd)
Marshadow: 19:39 Your Marshadow deals 2022 damage to a Linoone. (Force Palm - Lava Plume-like: lowest standard dmg)
19:40 Your Marshadow deals 1520 damage to a Hypno. (Shadow End: standard dmg)
Shiny Marshadow: 19:44 Your Shiny Marshadow deals 2030 damage to a Linoone. (Force Palm - Lava Plume-like: lowest standard dmg)
19:43 Your Shiny Marshadow deals 1712 damage to a Hypno. ((Shadow End: standard dmg + 100 base dmg on each hit tranlating to 13,3% buff for being shiny)
Darkrai: 19:49 Your Darkrai deals 6462 damage to a Hypno. (Dark Void - Breakwind Storm-like: standard dmg + 200 base dmg tranlating to 6,6% buff for being mythical) 19:49 Your Darkrai deals 2032 damage to a Hypno. (Shadow Storm - Lava Plume-like: lowest standard dmg)
Melmetal: 20:03 Your Melmetal deals 3006 damage to a Glalie. (Shift Gear - Blast Burner-like: standard dmg)
20:03 Your Melmetal deals 2010 damage to a Glalie. (Metallic Rush - Fiery Tornado-like: standard dmg)
Shaymin: 20:04 Your Shaymin deals 3212 damage to a Greninja. (Leaf Storm - Blast Burner-like: standard dmg + 100 base dmg on each hit tranlasting to 6,6% buff for being mythical)
20:04 Your Shaymin deals 2208 damage to a Greninja. (Metallic Rush - Fiery Tornado-like: standard dmg + 100 base dmg on each hit translating to 10% buff for being mythical)
There are some more special pokes like Elder Zard, C Onix, Red Gya, Ash Greninja, Golden Rhydon, Big Cruel, Big Onix etc but I stuck to the canon mythical/legendary ones.. but I think same should apply to them
Its clear to me that few of them have correct buff (green), some are overly buffed (blue) and some should have its dmg improved (red). I know in some cases we have abilities that buff atks like Reckless and Soul-Heart but IMO this shouldnt be considered cause all pokes have abilities (f Darkrai ) and each ability yields a benefit, so you shouldnt take this into account just cause some of them impact directly on dmg
Last but not least, I'd like to suggest that u change this policy of adding 100 base dmg to each hit of the attack as a buff for being shiny or legendary or mythical or cloned or special or whatever. Cause it creates big distortions on actual improvements. For example Adding 100 base dmg on each hit of atks like Ice Shards or Magma Storm means a buff of 20% (600/500) overall. As for adding 100 base dmg to attacks like Breakwind Storm means a buff of 3% (3100/3000). Increasing 10% dmg makes much more sense
Hope u at least read and think about what I've wrote cause it took me some time to do it and its very frustrating to see how some pokes should be much stronger than currently are. Best regards
Hopefully they will read you, because always for this issue of dmg, moves, etc. they always ignore you and according to what they do "the good rebalance", I finally see another player who starts testing pokemons and comparing damage.
And that you have only tested pokemons that are "used", if you were to test a lot more pokemons I think you would be disappointed, because at least I found in my list 4 pokemons +/- that are buggy, either because of ab or simply have ridiculously exaggerated damage.
I want to think that the good rebalance for the pokemons has not yet arrived, since the aforementioned should already have it, the event/forum pokemons for the "rare" dmg are are not very convincing to say.
The same happens with the Mythic, for their "rarity" of capture the damage is not very convincing, among all of them we will highlight the Crystal Onix and the Darkrai, the 1st has a good moveset, but the dmg I think would not be adequate, since there are normal pokemons that take out more than it, and the 2nd that I know of is one of the most difficult to obtain, it is practically garbage... F for what they have and not even to show it in pvp use.
Instead of modifying dmg to normal pokemons so that they come and use the power bug abuser. The pokemon dmg fix would be good.
Taking advantage of the post, the Dhelmise has its "steelworker" ab that according to increases 30% of dmg to steel-type attacks, testing with other pokes it would seem that it barely reaches 15% and I would say that 15% is still a lot..
In short, this issue of rebalancing, dmg moveset, etc. I think it would take a long time to have a solution.
Hopefully they will read you, because always for this issue of dmg, moves, etc. they always ignore you and according to what they do "the good rebalance", I finally see another player who starts testing pokemons and comparing damage.
And that you have only tested pokemons that are "used", if you were to test a lot more pokemons I think you would be disappointed, because at least I found in my list 4 pokemons +/- that are buggy, either because of ab or simply have ridiculously exaggerated damage.
I want to think that the good rebalance for the pokemons has not yet arrived, since the aforementioned should already have it, the event/forum pokemons for the "rare" dmg are are not very convincing to say.
The same happens with the Mythic, for their "rarity" of capture the damage is not very convincing, among all of them we will highlight the Crystal Onix and the Darkrai, the 1st has a good moveset, but the dmg I think would not be adequate, since there are normal pokemons that take out more than it, and the 2nd that I know of is one of the most difficult to obtain, it is practically garbage... F for what they have and not even to show it in pvp use.
Instead of modifying dmg to normal pokemons so that they come and use the power bug abuser. The pokemon dmg fix would be good.
Taking advantage of the post, the Dhelmise has its "steelworker" ab that according to increases 30% of dmg to steel-type attacks, testing with other pokes it would seem that it barely reaches 15% and I would say that 15% is still a lot..
In short, this issue of rebalancing, dmg moveset, etc. I think it would take a long time to have a solution.
Not to mention that dhelmise moveset is a mess, it's not focused on ghost, grass or metal, it has other types mixed that only makes her ability more lame.
) and each ability yields a benefit, so you shouldnt take this into account just cause some of them impact directly on dmg
