[Complaint] To whom this may concern vol 2

[Kohnan]

Again here with all due respect,

First of all, I apologize if I did not know how to explain about the exposed subject, but it should be noted that I also do not see a very good education to close the subject without waiting for the responses of the others who make up the staff, I not only asked for your opinion. serious mistake on your part "Sucrilhosforever", because although I know that you are right in your argument. in the same way, your opinion is not only what counts. I thank you for giving me that answer, which I will answer in the same way.



..."Rules exist for a reason, they were written and changes as the game needs, but selling items, cash or accounts were ALWAYS illegal, every person caught doing that got deleted, every person that get caught from now on will get deleted. Everyone here, me included, has to accept the rules when you create your account, as shown below".


I have just clearly read what the rule says, and if indeed you are absolutely right. But do you compare the situation before with that of now?

I can assure you that when I started this game I had no children, I was working, studying and playing at the same time. They are 2 different times, they are two different events.


here I clearly see that you unconsciously agree with what I am talking about, when you tell me that "the rules change according to the needs of the game" and here we clearly see an act of a human being wanting to progress in his daily life and situation. PANDEMIC no lets it advance. Yes, did you make a decision to use the wrong method to profit? YES, I agree, but there was no sale, there was nothing more than simple words in a group created to take advantage of those with weak minds or dead-end situations, in the same way I observe that you take it for granted that you do not care about the needs of others out beyond the game. Which from my point of view I see it completely in disagreement, because if that is the case, the player that is the one that wants to continue playing is the same one that is donating so that the server remains, don't you think?


I now turn to Raissa, with all due respect.

Previously, we have talked and I know that you are a person of good reasoning and I appeal to your positive side, to recognize what happened. We are in difficult times for many and I include myself in this context, it is enough with the problems we have outside to create another in the game, I would like you to read my other publication before all this and give me your opinion about it, Thank you.

my friend admits his mistake empathically, and justifies what happened with greater reasons beyond anyone's control. dont Like me, we were donors in the game, because we like it and because we do not want this project to end, we always give our grain of sand. I think that if Shadow mist was not given the opportunity at the time, it was because is anothers timers or years. The truth is, I do not know the reasons for her exile. I would like to investigate but at this moment I want to resolve this event first.

 

[darkkano]

First of all, I address you with all respect: Mr, Mrs, CM, GM or Adm:

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Well here come to show what I did I know that many Venezuelan friends will see this and will surely support me and I want to thank kohnan, ihnoted, Edd, flappy, grayfoxx and many more than throughout the 9 years that I am playing the is known in rl we have talked. Well, worldwide for no one is a secret that Venezuela has a difficult economic situation, and I am a young programmer who has not been able to get decent work as such to be able to survive on what I know and well I saw this in a way out of the situation in the one I was in, I've been playing PA for nine years of my life, I was just 12 years old when I started playing, I remember I didn't have a snack to buy credit cards to donate things in the game that I don't regret I made friends here and chose to be a programmer to create games and good.

It is correct, I assume guilt in this case, I made the publication because I was in a poor economic situation, one could say, I am from Venezuela and not if you have heard the news from my country, the economic situation is very bad, and my current situation worsened with the issue of the pandemic, I lost my job because of it, I have no way to generate income, and somehow or another I had to find a way to do it ... Since I could not depend so much time on my parents, even the Internet is paying me ... I don't know if you can imagine that: / I saw the game to which I have dedicated 9 years of my life as an option to solve my critical situation and thus get out of the hurry more in no At the moment it crossed my mind to sell my entire account, as you can see in the publication I was selling 1kk, I had a couple of interested parties, but I never managed to specify anything, a proof of this is that recently the cash that I had thinking of selling I used to buy an Aerodac tyl in the game ... Obviously I understood that what I was doing was wrong, but the despair almost made me make a mistake, obviously I know that this is your job as game staff and I understand that it is not your fault or responsibility the situation of my country / government, however you are a person just like me and I believe that in your life you must also have been about to make mistakes, either out of desperation, immaturity or for some reason ... I've been playing for 9 years and I wouldn't want to lose everything what was obtained / experienced by being about to make a mistake ... My question is this sanction final or can I have some kind of forgiveness for what happened


Sin mas nada que decir Soy Darkkano-Jose Andres

por redes sociales ya saben como buscarme

 

[IsFlappy]

Aveces pienso que sólo lo quieren es atropellar a mis amigo y mi guild porque he visto persona
S deleted y los perdonan y no es justo se que tiene que escribir en inglés pero no soy gringo ni nada soy venezolano y así escribo a mi idioma y si es un juego internacional deberian aprender el español y ustedes admin lo unico que saben es decir tema cerrado solo para evitarlo todo son 9 años que esta persona ha estado con ustedes y me parece bien grosero de parte de ustedes que por uno opinar y decir las cosas como son le escriban a uno amenazando que van a deleted por defender a gran persona que es esto vale

 

[IsFlappy]

Sometimes I think they only want it is to run over my friend and my guild because I have seen a person
S deleted and they forgive you and it is not fair I know that you have to write in English but I am not a gringo or anything I am Venezuelan and so I write in my language and if it is an international game you should learn Spanish and you admin the only thing you know is to say subject closed just to avoid everything, it is 9 years that this person has been with you and it seems very rude on the part of you that for one to give an opinion and say things as they are, they write to one threatening that they are going to be deleted for defending a great person who is this applies

 

[Simpsomp]

Darkkano, if you consider yourself as a professional or doing the way to be one, you should know that rules are there to keep an order, therefore as today it is a simple game, tomorrow could be a work in a company, and you should follow all the rules. You can't shield yourself about the situation in your country. It's simple, did you broke a rule? Then deal with the punishment, now if we talk about a "chance" only admins can decide.

Now, Flappy we don't have the goal as Staff to harm players, instead our goal is give to all community a fun enviroment but also keep the rules to make this work as society.
The English language is not meant to be a "Gringo". The reason this language is preferred because it is neutral for all players to communicate. You cannot force us to know Spanish if my native language is Polish or Portuguese, but u can use a "Google Translator" to be able to communicate and help everyone.

 

[Kohnan]

Darkkano, if you consider yourself as a professional or doing the way to be one, you should know that rules are there to keep an order, therefore as today it is a simple game, tomorrow could be a work in a company, and you should follow all the rules. You can't shield yourself about the situation in your country. It's simple, did you broke a rule? Then deal with the punishment, now if we talk about a "chance" only admins can decide.

Now, Flappy we don't have the goal as Staff to harm players, instead our goal is give to all community a fun enviroment but also keep the rules to make this work as society.
The English language is not meant to be a "Gringo". The reason this language is preferred because it is neutral for all players to communicate. You cannot force us to know Spanish if my native language is Polish or Portuguese, but u can use a "Google Translator" to be able to communicate and help everyone.

excellent, I expected no less from you. Thank you for being a supporter of providing an option and not just going for the tangete

 

[darkkano]

Darkkano, if you consider yourself as a professional or doing the way to be one, you should know that rules are there to keep an order, therefore as today it is a simple game, tomorrow could be a work in a company, and you should follow all the rules. You can't shield yourself about the situation in your country. It's simple, did you broke a rule? Then deal with the punishment, now if we talk about a "chance" only admins can decide.

Now, Flappy we don't have the goal as Staff to harm players, instead our goal is give to all community a fun enviroment but also keep the rules to make this work as society.
The English language is not meant to be a "Gringo". The reason this language is preferred because it is neutral for all players to communicate. You cannot force us to know Spanish if my native language is Polish or Portuguese, but u can use a "Google Translator" to be able to communicate and help everyone.

If it is correct, I broke the rules, but I did not receive any kind of payment, I simply published but I did not receive money. in fact I told you to buy me an aerodactyl, and I am not shielding myself from my situation in the country I simply explain why I did it.

I think that nobody likes to say that kind of thing, or the situation that happens.

I hope you evaluate my explanation and give me a second chance that I think we all deserve it some times in life.

With nothing more to add simpsomp thanks

 

[Sucrilhosforever]

here I clearly see that you unconsciously agree with what I am talking about(1), when you tell me that "the rules change according to the needs of the game" and here we clearly see an act of a human being wanting to progress in his daily life and situation. PANDEMIC no lets it advance. Yes, did you make a decision to use the wrong method to profit? YES, I agree, but there was no sale(2), there was nothing more than simple words in a group created to take advantage of those with weak minds or dead-end situations, in the same way I observe that you take it for granted that you do not care about the needs of others out beyond the game(3).

I'll answer this in order:
1 - If i did agreed with you, i would've done that 6 months ago when i was unemployeed and had to sell some of my belongings in order to pay my bills and give my family food. And even if i did tried to sell, i would have the same fate as Darkkano. The end doesn't justify the means.
2 - There was no sale cause he got caught, there would be a sale if he wasn't deleted. It's not like he would change his mind out of nowhere before selling.
3 - Im pretty sure that's a government duty, let's not mix up things here. Everyone fights an unknown fight every day, but this is a game, a game with rules(like any other), enforcing those rules does not make one a bad person.

no es justo se que tiene que escribir en inglés pero no soy gringo ni nada soy venezolano y así escribo a mi idioma y si es un juego internacional deberian aprender el español

So if i travel to your country, are you forced to learn portuguese just because i refuse myself to speak spanish on a spanish country? I don't think that's how it works.
English, as simp said, it is used because it is an universal language, people are encouraged to write english on most parts of the forum cause of it, but reports and appeals can be written on their mother language.

And no, there is no witch hunt against your guild or anyone else out there, there are staff members reinforcing the rules on the game we all play. There is nothing to worry about if you follow the rules accordingly.

your opinion is not only what counts.

And thats exactly why i consulted Raissa before doing the previous post. I wouldn't give any final answer on any of her/other staff member decisions without their consent, that's not how it works.

Again, i will close this thread, if Raissa wants to answer, she will do it here. But as of now Darkanno deletion won't be lifted, unless said otherwise.

 

[Raissa]

The reason for this post is to regard the events that a person close to me presents at the moment. I know it's not my problem and I know it's not of my concern, but I can't let this go by like this because I can't imagine the reason for his banishment. It is no secret to anyone that the Pandemic situation has forced many to use any means to make money, given that the alternatives for many of us are very few and the needs are many, both in virtual life and in real life.

We understand it, actually most of countries have pandemic problems and many of them struggle with economics, even those, that didn't have such problems before, but that doesn't change the fact that your friend must deal with consequences. Many games have such rule, your friend accepted them.

Else, if we give him a chance, then we'd have to give a chance to everyone else, who does illegal trade, people would start to create as interesting stories as little broter playing in casino or fishing. In the end it would become common and would end up being allowed and we'd be the ones, who would be losing. People would be more interested into buying ready, full tmed pokemons or HDs rather than diamonds. And it's not only game's related bills such as host, sprites or anything, but it also would affect us. After all, it's also our source of money, we don't hide it, we work for it and I don't see why we should be sponsors. We have our problems too, often not smaller than your friends. Don't get it wrong, 1 person wouldn't harm us, but allowing 1 person means allowing everyone, because 1 is not better than others.

My name is Kevin and in the game I am known as Kohnan. In real life, I am a Graphic Designer, I dedicate myself to the entire advertising area. And as everyone will know, this AREA is very well paid worldwide, since the image of a company is considered a fundamental part of a business or project. But in my country, VENEZUELA, projects are a bit complex and are not very well paid.

That doesn't have anything to do with the concern, but if you are graphic designer, you can be a freelancer and get hired by anyone worldwide and get well paid, you can work online, it works in most of the graphic areas, for example sprites. I am from Poland, Jano is from Chile, we hire Brazilian spriters. The world is huge and there are many offers for graphic designers, just look around.

I am in favor that the RULES MUST BE FOLLOWED and although it sounds a bit out of place in regards of the rules, I honestly say that if I were going through an extremely difficult moment in which my CHILDREN were affected and I had to lest go of what it has filled me years after years, giving me creativity, many times to drain everyday situations and what we proudly call (PADVENTURES), I would have DONE THE SAME as my friend.

As I said, we understand it. More, we have already been helping 1 venezuelan guy giving him 100% income from venezuelan donations, which he claimed helped him a lot and many other stuff I don't want to mention, but in the end he betrayed us, spoke shit behind our backs and did illegal trade for riot points, that's how thankful people are. Anyway, if you did it, we'd understand, but you'd have to deal with exactly the same consequences as anyone who does illegal trade.

It's called finding a way out of a situation that affects the world. My friend (DARKKANO) old player like me, a young guy in a process of University development, with aspirations to be someone in life and because of a country and a WORLD SITUATION, he looked for an alternative in a game that he devoted time and effort. So much so, that he became the TOP LEVEL of VENEZUELA IN PA; to be able to meet the needs that were currently going through his life, with desperation to go out and want to study he wanted to sell something that cost him the time, effort and dedication he invested in the game, his account

As I said earlier, everyone has problems, smaller or bigger, if game has rules, then they are to follow. Situation in your country is only fault of YOURS it's people who live in Venezuela that let it happen, nobody will fix it for you. You cannot just do, what is forbidden in excuse of bad country economics.

It seems irrational and a bit unfair his banishment

Unfair would be giving him a chance right now, when other people are already deleted for the same reason and their characters wiped out of database. It doesn't matter what level he is, how much time he played, he's no better than a 20 lvl that would do illegal trade, so such arguments don't really work.
it would also be unfair to those people, who were deleted for smaller "crimes" such as bot.

But hey, no one stops to ask the situation of each person in their life outside of the game, they simply shoot and then ask.

It is too difficult to ask the person, WHY DID YOU DO IT? Or at LEAST why are you trying to do it? I think if we are talking about a player who is just starting out and has been playing for 1 or 2 years, but please at least ask WHAT HAPPENED? I think it would be the WISER. We are human beings and we are destined to make mistakes, and although we do not want to, sometimes there are situations where in order to solve something we do not measure the problems that we cause by what we do

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It might sound evil, but dude, it's not our problem, we have our own too and nobody asks or cares. As I said before, we cannot sponsor people and we won't. Besides of the fact that there are many international job offers that can be done online, there are also foundraising websites, where your friend can ask for help. Put some effort instead of finding the easiest way.

I respectfully ask that you consider reinstating this character for two very simple reasons:
1) This person never traded any type of objects for illegal sale, which would be a justified ban for that.
2) HIS COUNTRY AND WORLD PANDEMIC Situation, (many will say that the pandemic has nothing to do with all this, but it does have a lot to do with it, because if this problem of the pandemic had not happened, neither he or other people would not have been left without work and they would not have to resort to this means to be able to obtain a sustenance).

1) The answer is nope. Come back during Christmas, that's the time when we often forgive people, but expect account to be empty.
2) Again, your country, your problem. It sounds evil, but let me repeat for xth time. We do have our own problems too, our countries deal with pandemic too. People in our countries are either losing their jobs or half of salaries. Things are getting more and more expensive, my grandpa's heart is 80% ineffective, my grandparents with whom I live cannot afford many stuff because things get more expensive due to ^#@#$% government, I was dealing with coronavirus, dealing with thyroid problems that ruin my health overall and I spend a lot of money to deal with it using different methods (which work btw), Master Blade, Ashtib were dealing with corona, Jano's mom also, Sucri ended up uneployeed, his country is in a bad condition as well and we are not goig desperate to sell HDs (which we can have unlimited amounts) for these reasons. Many of our staff members deal with similar problems, including pandemic, even those that live in European countries. You got to understand, that the world does not round around Venezuela and its citizens' problems, everyone has them, that doesn't mean we have to break rules in game or laws in real life.

Perhaps the staff should evaluate a little that rule of banishment, I consider that there should be a more considerate process where the first sentence that is handed down could be a punishment like 5 months

Not gonna happenn and I will tell you why. From time to time we're giving chances for deleted people regardless of reason, either during cleanup or Christmas. 70% of those that were deleted for illegal trade did the same again soon after deletion. I will tell you one example. Play Orita, who got undeleted, given a chance to get empty account after 2931293812938129381938192381293 days of begging us, it didn't take more than 2 weeks and he did the same. During Christmas he got 3rd chance and got undeleted again. Guess what? So nop.

It is as simple as this example: "I am selling Drugs at Home", this triggers a series of events in which, they raid my house, they search and I have nothing in my house. They will file a complaint for contempt and suddenly destructive behavior before society. And go to prison for 1 or 2 months. But they are not going to grab and tell me YOU ARE GOING TO GO TO PRISON and YOU WILL HAVE A PRISON FOR LIFE SENTENCE for saying on social media that I was SELLING DRUGS when actually he didn't even sell the first one?

Your friend didn't have a chance to sell because we caught him too quickly. If we haven't noticed, he would do it, so it doesn't change anything.

I personally think… I would lose a lot of interest in the game, knowing that out of nowhere someone can go and delete my account without saying a word

It is not out of nowhere, it's when you decide to break game rules

I not only asked for your opinion. serious mistake on your part "Sucrilhosforever", because although I know that you are right in your argument. in the same way, your opinion is not only what counts

It does count, he's a community manager and he makes his own decisions. Admins interfere only, when something might seem to be a mistake, unfair or overreaction.
Sucri consulted that with me and his answer was based on my words.

I can assure you that when I started this game I had no children, I was working, studying and playing at the same time. They are 2 different times, they are two different events.

It doesn't change anything. I won't repeat over and over so read above.

Previously, we have talked and I know that you are a person of good reasoning and I appeal to your positive side, to recognize what happened. We are in difficult times for many and I include myself in this context, it is enough with the problems we have outside to create another in the game, I would like you to read my other publication before all this and give me your opinion about it, Thank you.

There's no need to be writing essays to make us understand, I don't like to give long answers either but I have to. We do really understand, we really feel sorry for your friend, but that's all. We cannot undelete him, because we'd have to undelete everyone regardless if already sold or not and I said in the beginning, it would end up being allowed, many ppl would start to do it, create stories knowing they will be given a second chance, if Darkkano did, why didn't they?

Aveces pienso que sólo lo quieren es atropellar a mis amigo y mi guild porque he visto persona
S deleted y los perdonan y no es justo se que tiene que escribir en inglés pero no soy gringo ni nada soy venezolano y así escribo a mi idioma y si es un juego internacional deberian aprender el español y ustedes admin lo unico que saben es decir tema cerrado solo para evitarlo todo son 9 años que esta persona ha estado con ustedes y me parece bien grosero de parte de ustedes que por uno opinar y decir las cosas como son le escriban a uno amenazando que van a deleted por defender a gran persona que es esto vale

For this game you are a "gringo. It is international indeed, but it's made in english, it includes game mechanics, quests, npc dialogues and forum, it's not us supposed to learn spanish, but you are supposed to use english if you wannt to communnicate here. Don't be an ignorant.



I hope my answer fill your needs and please, don't create next threads, it' pointless. Time lose for you and for us reading your essays. The answer will stay a a no.