ToxicBoii
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Hello.
I think both nidoqueen and king need some changes to one way or another.
Nidoqueen:
- 4 aoes [2 poison 2 earth]
- target stun
Nidoking:
- 4 aoes[2 earth 1 poison 1 dark[stun]]
- aoe stun
Both have similar learnset.
I'll start with Nidoking. As actually he feels more ground than poison because of more attacks of this type.
I'm suggesting to change Flatter for ground stun as maybe Quicksand(actually in Golem it doesn't deal dmg, maybe here it could) so he would become more ground and could compete with other ground pokemons.
Or make a new ground aoe stun move instead of quicksand. Nidoking have already some decent counters for psychic(Mega horn, chip away and can learn much counter tms(even if he isn't used in duels at all)), so it would be decent change making him better in pve, and maybe more popular.
I think nidoqueen one earth move should be changed for better one. I mean we have many decent poison pokemons, and there aren't many poison moves. Looking at swalot, muk, seviper, arbok etc they share almost same movesets and with TMs they all almost similar. Maybe change Venom storm to Scorching grounds? He doesn't have decent stun(Mud bomb) but 4 decent AoEs compensate it.
Overall, even if you doesn't agree with my suggestions, you still need to rebalance them both somehow, they aren't used at all, even huge TMs learnset doesn't help them as it works in Pokemon games.
Maybe adding new ability Sheer Force would add new ways to rebalance.
Sheer force - moves which have extra effects(as negative effects, stuns etc) deal x% more dmg but this effects doesn't affect pokemons.
I think both nidoqueen and king need some changes to one way or another.
Nidoqueen:
- 4 aoes [2 poison 2 earth]
- target stun
Nidoking:
- 4 aoes[2 earth 1 poison 1 dark[stun]]
- aoe stun
Both have similar learnset.
I'll start with Nidoking. As actually he feels more ground than poison because of more attacks of this type.
I'm suggesting to change Flatter for ground stun as maybe Quicksand(actually in Golem it doesn't deal dmg, maybe here it could) so he would become more ground and could compete with other ground pokemons.
Or make a new ground aoe stun move instead of quicksand. Nidoking have already some decent counters for psychic(Mega horn, chip away and can learn much counter tms(even if he isn't used in duels at all)), so it would be decent change making him better in pve, and maybe more popular.
I think nidoqueen one earth move should be changed for better one. I mean we have many decent poison pokemons, and there aren't many poison moves. Looking at swalot, muk, seviper, arbok etc they share almost same movesets and with TMs they all almost similar. Maybe change Venom storm to Scorching grounds? He doesn't have decent stun(Mud bomb) but 4 decent AoEs compensate it.
Overall, even if you doesn't agree with my suggestions, you still need to rebalance them both somehow, they aren't used at all, even huge TMs learnset doesn't help them as it works in Pokemon games.
Maybe adding new ability Sheer Force would add new ways to rebalance.
Sheer force - moves which have extra effects(as negative effects, stuns etc) deal x% more dmg but this effects doesn't affect pokemons.
