New TMS 156 - 200 that will come for Easter

[stin stauer]

I'd change spite for phantom force on this list. ( or remove any other tm from list list to add it)

reason: it deals a great damage, it breaks reflect and some other protections, and also it helps the game to stop using so much the tm brick break, in oder to make some pokemons more versatible.

 

[Raissa]

I'd change spite for phantom force on this list. ( or remove any other tm from list list to add it)

reason: it deals a great damage, it breaks reflect and some other protections, and also it helps the game to stop using so much the tm brick break, in oder to make some pokemons more versatible.

I am sorry but I see it kinda useless. There aren't too many ghost Pokemons. Part of them can already learn brick break and part has it in moveset and we don't really want to add it as a TM to those ghosts, that don't have a way to break reflect, that would mean every ghost can break it and that what should not happen.

 

[stin stauer]

I am sorry but I see it kinda useless. There aren't too many ghost Pokemons. Part of them can already learn brick break and part has it in moveset and we don't really want to add it as a TM to those ghosts, that don't have a way to break reflect, that would mean every ghost can break it and that what should not happen.

Ye.. I agree with you when you say that not all the ghosts pokémons should use this move, my idea was more in case of some pokémons that already own it, lose this move on a rebalance and also to use this TM on other pokémons that are not normal, but can learn ghost moves.. anyway thanksss

 

[Raissa]

So here's updated list of new tms!
ITEMS IDS ARE FROM ALREADY EXISTING TMS, YOU JUST HAVE TO CLONE THEM FOR NEW TMS
TM157 Defog

Scyther, Noctowl, Shiftry, Crobat, Lurantis, Charizard, Beedrill, Fearow, Venomoth, Farfetch'd, Dragonite, Togetic, Togekiss, Xatu, Yanmega, Honchkrow, Scizor, Delibird, Mantine, Skarmory, Dustox, Beautifly, Pelipper, Masquerain, Flygon, Ninjask, Empoleon, Mothim, Sunktank, Lumineon, Ledian, Blaziken, Volbeat, Illumise, Altaria, Tropius, Carnivine, Vespiquen, Emolga, Rotom, Whimsicott, Serperior, Cryogonal, Hydreigon, Volcarona, Talonflame, Ribombee, Tapu Koko, Noivern

TM158 Water Tornado

Wailord, Huntail, Gorebyss, Empoleon, Floatzel, Lumineon, Phione, Alomomola, Dhelmise, Tapu Fini, Lapras, Lanturn, Cloyster, Omastar, Wishiwashi, Carracosta, Blastoise, Tentacruel, Slowbro, Dewgong, Seadra, Kingdra, Seaking, Starmie, Gyarados, Lickilicky, Tauros, Kangaskhan, Kabutops, Snorlax, Furret, Dragonite, Politoed, Qwilfish, Octillery, Corsola, Miltank, Exploud, Hariyama, Ludicolo, Sharpedo, Whiscash, Crawdaunt, Milotic, Wailmer, Empoleon, Bibarel, Lumineon, Mantine, Golduck, Samurott, Pyukumuku, Greninja, Azumarill, Relicanth, Gastrodon, Jellicent, Araquanid, Bruxish, Wash Rotom, Toxapex, Golisopod

TM159 Wonder Room

Nihilego, Slowking, Slowbro, Oranguru, Misdreavus, Mismagius, Primarina, Clefable, Alolan Ninetales, Kadabra, Alakazam, Gengar, Starmie, Mr Mime, Jynx, Porygon, Porygon2, Porygon-Z, Umbreon, Sableye, Altaria, Gardevoir, Claydol, Dusknoir, Bronzong, Spiritomb, Gallade, Cofagrigus, Meowstic, Carbink, Diancie, Ribombee, Araquanid, Shiinotic, Bruxish, Delphox, Espeon, Grumpig, Gothitelle, Xatu, Alolan Raichu, Exeggutor, Medichamp, Metagross, Malamar

TM 160 Mud Sport

Steelix, Piloswine, Mamoswine, Linoone, Armaldo, Excadrill, Luvdisc, Lopunny, Blastoise, Corsola, Plusle & Minun, Golem, Alolan Golem, Flygon, Dugtrio, Alolan Dugtrio, Sandslash, Marowak, Donphan, Hippowdon, Rhydon, Rhyperior, Gliscor, Golurk, Nidoqueen, Nidoking, Quagsire, Tyranitar, Camerupt, Torterra, Garchomp, Diggersby, Palossand

TM161 Magma Storm

Ninetales, Arcanine, Rapidash, Flareon, Typhlosion, Magcargo, Blaziken, Torkoal, Emboar, Houndoom, Incineroar, Delphox, Alolan Marowak, Camerupt, Talonflame, Oricorio (baile), Turtonator, Blacephalon, Heat Rotom, Chandelure, Volcarona, Salazzle

TM162 Tectonic Dance

Sandslash, Dugtrio, Alolan Dugtrio, Kangaskhan, Lickilicky, Marowak, Flygon, Excadrill, Mudsdale, Gliscor, Rhydon, Rhyperior, Golurk, Nidoking, Nidoqueen, Golem, Onix, Quagsire, Steelix, Piloswine, Mamoswine, Tyranitar, Camerupt, Swampert, Garchomp, Palossand, Snorlax, Machamp, Tauros, Miltank, Hariyama, Exploud, Bastiodon, Bewear, Oranguru, Turtonator, Electivire, Aerodactyl, Slaking

TM163 Fury Swipes

Charizard, Sandslash, Alolan Sandslash, Parasect, Dugtrio, Alolan Dugtrio, Golduck, Primeape, Ariados, Weavile, Ludicolo, Ninjask, Sableye, Infernape, Skuntank, Liepard, Excadrill, Zoroark, Beartic, Zeroara, Incineroar, Bewear, Typhlosion, Snorlax, Lickilicky, Kangaskhan, Porygon, Porygon2, Porygon-Z, Dunsparce, Stantler, Blissey, Clefable, Wigglytuff, Slaking, Exploud, Lopunny, Diggersby, Stoutland, Gumshoos, Pidgeot, Fearow, Dodrio, Farfetch'd, Noctowl, Swellow, Girafarig, Stantler, Chatot, Sawsbuck (all forms), Toucannon, Oranguru, Drampa,

TM164 Steamroller

Golem, Alolan Golem, Volbeat, Illumise, Kricketune, Vivillon, Butterfree, Beedrill, Ledian, Ariados, Yanmega, Shuckle, Heracross, Beautifly, Dustox, Masquerain, Ninjask, Shedinja, Mothim, Vespiquen, Volcarona, Vikavolt, Golisopod, Buzzwole, Pheromosa, Wormadam

TM165 Mist

Alolan Ninetales, Poliwrath, Lapras, Vaporeon, Quagsire, Piloswine, Mamoswine, Pelipper, Wailord, Empoleon, Altaria, Vanilluxe, Cryogonal, Aurorus, Tapu Fini, Blastoise, Dragonite, Milotic, Corsola, Alomomola, Wishiwashi, Avalugg, Drampa, Glalie, Beartic, Walrein, Alolan Sandslash, Froslass, Cloyster, Weavile, Frost Rotom, Crabominable, Aurorus

TM166 Dragon Cry

Dragonite, Salamence, Haxorus, Altaria, Drampa, Kommo-o, Alolan Exeggutor, Sceptile, Hydreigon, Tyrantrum, Noivern, Turtonator, Guzzlord, Naganadel, Gyarados, Charizard

TM167 Burn Up

Cyndaquil, Quilava, Typhlosion, Numel, Camerupt, Flareon, Slugma, Magcargo, Torkoal, Fennekin, Braixen, Delphox, Alolan Marowak, Infernape, Fletchling, Fletchinder, Talonflame, Oricorio, Turtonator, Blacephalon, Litwick, Lampent, Chandelure, Salandit, Salazzle

TM168 Dream Catcher

Poliwrath, Hypno, Exeggutor, Lapras, Dragonite, Electivire, Electabuzz, Gengar, Banette, Dusknoir, Drifblim, Spiritomb, Chandelure, Mimikyu, Trevenant, Gourgeist, Palossand, Oricorio (sensu), Alolan Marowak, Shedinja, Jellicent, Golurk, Aegislash, Decidueye, Marshadow, Blacephalon, Mismagius, Sableye, Froslass, Alolan Raticate, Alolan Persian, Alakazam, Kangaskhan, Weavile, Umbreon, Mightyena, Shiftry, Xatu, Absol, Honchkrow, Skuntank, Mawile, Bronzong, Lucario, Rotom, Liepard, Zoroark, Malamar, Mandibuzz, Bisharp, Hydreigon, Alolan Muk, Sharpedo, Greninja, Pangoro, Ash Greninja

TM169 Fairy Dreams

Clefable, Wigglytuff, Whimsicott, Togekiss, Togetic, Florges, Aromatisse, Slurpuff, Sylveon, Comfey, Azumarill, Alolan Ninetales, Gardevoir, Mawile, Dedenne, Klefki, Shiinotic, Mimikyu, Tapu Lele, Tapu Koko, Tapu Fini, Tapu Bulu, Primarina, Hypno, Alakazam, Granbull, Sableye, Blissey, Chansey, Altaria, Cherrim, Phione, Tsareena, Jumpluff, Delcatty, Purugly

TM170 Ghost Drive

Gengar, Banette, Dusknoir, Drifblim, Spiritomb, Chandelure, Mimikyu, Trevenant, Gourgeist, Palossand, Oricorio (sensu),Shedinja, Jellicent, Golurk, Aegislash, Decidueye, Marshadow, Blacephalon, Mismagius, Sableye, Froslass, Alolan Raticate, Alolan Persian, Alakazam, Weavile, Umbreon, Mightyena, Shiftry, Xatu, Absol, Honchkrow. Rotom, Zoroark, Malamar, Mandibuzz, Bisharp, Hydreigon, Alolan Muk, Sharpedo, Greninja, Pangoro, Ash Greninja

TM 171 Spiritual Storm

Gengar, Banette, Dusknoir, Drifblim, Spiritomb, Chandelure, Mimikyu, Trevenant, Gourgeist, Palossand, Oricorio (sensu), Alolan Marowak, Shedinja, Jellicent, Golurk, Aegislash, Decidueye, Marshadow, Blacephalon, Mismagius, Sableye, Froslass, Alolan Raticate, Alolan Persian, Alakazam, Kangaskhan, Weavile, Umbreon, Mightyena, Shiftry, Xatu, Absol, Honchkrow, Skuntank, Mawile, Bronzong, Lucario, Rotom, Liepard, Zoroark, Malamar, Mandibuzz, Bisharp, Hydreigon, Alolan Muk, Sharpedo, Greninja, Pangoro, Ash Greninja, Incineroar

TM172 Grass Knot

Comfey, Venusaur, Raticate, Alolan Raticate, Pikachu, Raichu, Alolan Raichu, Clefairy, Clefable, Jigglypuff, Wigglytuff, Vileplume, Kadabra, Alakazam, Parasect, Weepinbell, Victreebel, Slowbro, Hypno, Chansey, Starmie, Tangela, Tangrowth, Mr mime, Jynx, Furret, Togetic, Togekiss, Togepi, Xatu, Azumarill, Jumpluff, Sunflora, Blissey, Girafarig, Aipom, Ambipom, Espeon, Slowking, Linoone, Ludicolo, Gardevoir, Delcatty, Nuzleaf, Shiftry, Mawile, Medicham, Plusle, Minun, Plusle&Minun, Grumpig, Roserade, Cacturne, Lunatone, Solrock, Claydol, Chimecho, Metang, Metagross, Tropius, Infernape, Torterra, Empoleon, Bibarel, Pachirisu, Lopunny, Cherrim, Bronzong, Leafeon, Gallade, Phione, Emboar, Samurott, Liepard, Conkeldurr, Lilligant, Zoroark, Cofagrigus, Gothitelle, Sawsbuck (spring, summer, autumn), Haxorus, Beartic, Golurk, Chesnaught, Delphox, Greninja, Diggersby, Pangoro, Dedenne, Dartrix, Decidueye, Trevenant, Gourgeist, Passimian, Togedemaru, Drampa, Dhelmise, Tapu Koko, Tapu Lele, Tapu Bulu, Tapu Fini, Nihilego, Xurkitree, Celesteela, Marshadow, Zeraora

TM173 Geomancy

Clefable, Wigglytuff, Whimsicott, Togekiss, Togetic, Slurpuff, Sylveon, Comfey, Azumarill, Alolan Ninetales, Gardevoir, Mawile, Klefki, Shiinotic, Mimikyu, Tapu Lele, Tapu Koko, Tapu Fini, Tapu Bulu, Primarina, Sableye, Blissey, Chansey, Cherrim, Phione, Tsareena, Jumpluff, Delcatty, Purugly

TM174 Shift Gear

Metagross, Bronzong, Aegislash, Klefki, Celesteela, Magneton, Magnezone, Scizor, Forretress, Empoleon, Wormadam (trash), Lucario, Probopass, Bisharp, Togedemaru, Kartana, Stakataka

TM175 Light of Ruin

Wigglytuff, Whimsicott, Togekiss, Togetic, Slurpuff, Sylveon, Comfey, Azumarill, Alolan Ninetales, Gardevoir, Mawile, Klefki, Shiinotic, Mimikyu, Tapu Lele, Tapu Koko, Tapu Fini, Tapu Bulu, Primarina, Blissey, Chansey, Cherrim, Granbull, Florges, Mr Mime, Dedenne, Magearna

TM176 Natural Gift

Meganium, Venusaur, Tangrowth, Forretress, Donphan, Ludicolo, Altaria, Comfey, Talonflame, Parasect, Dodrio, Alolan Exeggutor, Exeggutor, Snorlax, Miltank, Sceptile, Vanilluxe, Blissey, Clefable, Wigglytuff, Aerodactyl, Electrode, Nidoking, Nidoqueen, Bronzong, Metagross, Lapras, Walrein, Kangaskhan, Tyranitar, Steelix, Dragonite, Salamence, Shiinotic, Tsareena, Gourgeist, Umbreon, Espeon, Glaceon, Vaporeon, Flareon, Jolteon, Gogoat, Lurantis, Decidueye, Primarina, Oranguru, Mow Rotom, Porygon-Z, Dunsparce, Spinda, Electivire, Magmortar, Infernape, Greninja, Lopunny, Ambipom, Milotic, Xatu, Toucannon, Dewgong, Cloyster, Alakazam, Hypno, Gothitelle, Mr Mime, Medicham, Slowking, Slowbro, Blastoise, Raichu

TM177 Selfdestruction

Golem, Electrode, Weezing, Forretress, Claydol, Ferrothorn, Minior, Sudowoodo, Snorlax, Muk, Alolan Muk, Cloyster, Gengar, Onix, Steelix, Exeggutor, Alolan Exeggutor, Magcargo, Corsola, Camerupt, Wailord, Metagross, Glalie, Lunatone, Solrock, Torkoal

TM178 Final Gambit

Alolan Dugtrio, Zangoose, Seviper, Machamp, Medicham, Hitmonlee, Hitmonchan, Hitmontop, Hariyama, Conkeldurr, Passimian, Crabominable, Pangoro, Marshadow, Blaziken, Breloom, Infernape, Toxicroak, Gallade, Chesnaught, Bewear, Kommo-o, Buzzwole, Pheromosa

TM179 Embargo

Gengar, Dusknoir, Banette, Trevenant, Gourgeist, Cofagrigus, Aegislash, Umbreon, Liepard, Pangoro, Mightyena, Bisharp, Alolan Persian, Absol, Malamar, Zoroark, Alolan Raticate, Gliscor, Honchkrow, Mandibuzz, Hydreigon, Guzzlord, Tyranitar, Sharpedo, Cacturne, Crawdaunt, Skuntank, Spiritomb, Drapion, Incineroar, Greninja, Ash Greninja, Mimikyu, Mismagius, Sableye, Oricorio (sensu), Dhelmise, Palossand, Froslass, Shedinja, Decidueye, Marshadow, Blacephalon, Solrock, Weavile, Porygon-Z, Gothitelle, Alolan Muk, Houndoom, Shiftry, Zangoose, Toxicroak, Oranguru, Bruxish

TM180 Sizzly Slide

Charizard, Ninetales, Arcanine, Rapidash, Magmar, Magmortar, Typhlosion, Torkoal, Magcargo, Houndoom, Blaziken, Emboar, Incineroar, Delphox, Camerupt, Infernape, Turtonator, Blacephalon, Oricorio (baile), Heat Rotom, Chandelure, Volcarona, Salazzle

TM181 Spin Out

Butterfree, Venomoth, Pinsir, Illumise, Volbeat, Forretress, Kricketune, Wormadam, Vivillon, Beedrill, Parasect, Ledian, Yanmega, Scyther, Scizor, Beautifly, Dustox, Masquerain, Shedinja, Ninjask, Vespiquen, Mothim, Galvantula, Volcarona, Vikavolt, Ribombee, Pheromosa, Araquanid, Golisopod, Buzzwolle, Armaldo, Drapion, Seviper, Crobat, Skuntank, Toxicroak, Toxapex, Vileplume, Ariados, Roserade, Qwilfish

TM182 Leaf Storm

Tangrowth, Lurantis, Shiinotic, Sunflora, Cherrim, Decidueye, Gourgeist, Trevenant, Dhelmise, Cradily, Parasect, Kartana, Whimsicott, Abomasnow, Shiftry, Cacturne, Jumpluff, Vileplume, Gogoat, Leafeon, Carnivine

TM183 Leaf Tornado

Venusaur, Vileplume, Parasect, Sunflora, Sceptile, Shiftry, Cacturne, Cherrim, Torterra, Leafeon, Lilligant, Meganium, Bellossom, Gogoat, Lurantis, Tsareena, Exeggutor, Alolan Exeggutor, Jumpluff, Tropius, Torterra, Whimsicott, Ferrothorn, Kartana, Decidueye, Shiinotic, Ludicolo, Cradily, Mow Rotom, Sawsbuck (summer, spring, autumn forms), Trevenant, Gourgeist, Dhelmise, Tangrowth

TM184 Spite

Gengar, Cloned Gengar, Mismagius, Dunsparce, Golisopod, Arbok, Ninetales, Alolan Ninetales, Persian, Alolan Persian, Alolan Muk, Weavile, Houndoom, Pyukumuku, Alolan Marowak, Rhydon, Cloned Rhydon, Rhyperior, Cloned Rhyperior, Kangaskhan, Gyarados, Feraligatr, Umbreon, Tyranitar, Mightyena, Shitry, Ninjask, Aggron, Sharpedo, Cacturne, Crawdaunt, Absol, Glalie, Froslass, Rampardos, Drifblim, Zoroark, Jellicent, Chanderule, Bisharp, Hydreigon, Greninja, Ash Greninja, Pangoro, Decidueye, Oranguru, Dhelmise, Mimikyu, Blacephalon

TM185 Stone Edge

Onix, Rhydon, Cloned Rhydon, Rhyperior, Cloned Rhyperior, Sudowoodo, Steelix, Mega Steelix, Tyranitar, Solrock, Gigalith, Conkeldurr, Carbink, Diancie, Mega Diancie, Lycanroc dusk, Lycanroc midnight, Sandslash, Nidoking, Nidoqueen, Dugtrio, Alolan Dugtrio, Alolan Muk, Marowak, Alolan Marowak, Tauros, Gyarados, Red Gyarados, Omastar, Kaubtops, Aerodactyl, Dragonite, Quagsire, Shiny Quagsire, Granbull, Gliscor, Shiny Gliscor, Ursaring, Magcargo, Mamoswine, Corsola, Donphan, Swampert, Mega Swampert, Aggron, Camerupt, Torkoal, Flygon, Whiscash, Claydol, Cradily, Armaldo, Absol, Relicanth, Torterra, Rampardos, Bastiodon, Gastrodon, Garchomp, Carracosta, Hydreigon, Diggersby, Shiny Diggersby, Tyrantrum, Aurorus, Palossand, Tapu bulu, Stakataka, Guzzlord

TM186 Close Combat

Primeape, Cloned Primeape, Hitmonchan, Zangoose, Marshadow, Arcanine, Cloned Arcanine, Granbull, Ursaring, Mudsdale, Conkeldurr, Pangoro, Medicham, Hawlucha, Shiny Hawlucha, Poliwrath, Breloom, Toxicroak, Emboar, Buzzwole, Pheromosa

TM187 Sky Drop

Skarmory, Tapu Koko, Naganadel, Noivern, Shiny Noivern, Butterfree, Cloned Butterfree, Fearow, Crobat, Dodrio, Scyther, Gyarados, Ledian, Togekiss, Xatu, Jumpluff, Yanmega, Honchkrow, Gliscor. Shiny Gliscor, Beautifly, Masquerain, Salamence, Tropius, Combee final, Vespiquen, Mothim, fan rotom, Emolga, Decidueye, Minior

TM188 Flame Charge

Blaziken, Mega Blaziken, Emboar, Zebstrika, Volcarona, Talonflame, Charizard, Cloned Charizard, Elder Charizard, Arcanine, Ninetales, Alolan Marowak, Magmortar, Magmar, Flareon, Magcargo, Houndoom, Camerupt, Torkoal, Infernape, Chandelure, Toucannon, Silvally, Turtonator, Blacephalon, Celesteela

TM189 Metallic Noise

Magnezone, Kabutops, Skarmory, Bastiodon, Wormadam trash, Bronzong, Bisharp, Aegislash, Klefki, Silvally, Dhelmise, Celesteela, Alolan Diglett, Steelix, Mega Steelix, Mega Mawile, Metagross, Forretress, lucario, mega lucario, Ferrothron, Togedamaru, Stakataka

TM190 Freeze Dry

lapras, glaceon, beartic, avalugg, alola slash, jynx, walrein, cloyster, frost rotom, abomasnow, blastoise, golduck, kingler, poliwrath, starmie, gyarados, vaporeon, feraligatr, politoed, octilerry, swampert, wailord, crawdaunt, milotic, huntail, gorebyss, luvdisc, empoleon, floatzel, gastrodon, lumineon, phione, samurott, alomomola, greninja, wishiwashi, primarina, tentacruel, slowbro, azumarill, lanturn, quagsire, corsola, mantine, pelipper, sharpedo, whiscash, carracosta, jellicent, ash-greninja, araquanid, bruxish?, omastar, kabutops, toxapex, golisopod

TM191 Electric Terrain

luxray, alolan raichu, ampharos, electrode, jolteon, plusle + minun, pachirisu, rotom, wash rotom, fan rotom, heat rotom, frost rotom, mow rotom, emolga, dedenne, oricoriop, alolan golem, lanturn, galvantula, vikavolt, porygon-z

TM192 Trick Room

porygon, porygon 2, porygon-Z, Oranguru, Alakazam, Gengar, Hypno, Exeggutor, Alolan Exeggutor, Starmie, Mr Mime, Xatu, Espeon, Slowking, Mismagius, Stantler, Gardevoir, Grumpig, Spinda, Solrock, Dusknoir, Chimecho, Bronzong, Gallade, Whimsicott, Cofagrigus, Jellicent, Chandelure, Meowstic male, Meowstic female, Malamar, Carbink, Gourgeist, Trevenant, Oranguru, Mimikyu, Nihilego, Magearna, Espeon, Shiny Espeon, Oricorio ten psycho, Alolan Raichu, Medicham, Metagross, Shiny Metagross

TM193 Foul Play

Honchkrow, Zoroark, Klefki, Skuntank, Spiritomb, Mandibuzz, Shiny Mandibuzz, Ninetales, Alolan Ninetales, Alolan Muk, Electrode, Cloned Electrode, Porygon, porygon2, porygon-z, Ariados, Shiny Ariados, Sudowoodo, Girafarig, Weavile, Mightyena, Tyranitar, Cacturne, Absol, Liepard, Bisharp, Alolan Raticate, Hydreigon, Guzzlord, Sharpedo, Greninja, Incineroar, Shiny Incineroar

TM194 Mean Look

Crobat, Jynx, Umbreon, Mismagius, Honchkrow, Sableye, Dusknoir, Tapu Koko, Tapu Lele, Tapu Bulu, Tapu Fini, Gardevoir, Absol, Serperior, Mandibuzz, Mightyena, Alolan Muk, Alolan Persian, Malamar, Pangoro

TM195 Lava Pulse

Charizard, Ninetales, Arcanine, Rapidash, Magmar, Magmortar, Typhlosion, Torkoal, Magcargo, Houndoom, Blaziken, Emboar, Incineroar, Delphox, Camerupt, Infernape, Turtonator, Blacephalon, Oricorio (baile), Heat Rotom, Chandelure, Volcarona, Salazzle

TM196 Brave Bird

Pidgeot, Fearow, Farfetch'd, Mandibuzz, Altaria, Decidueye, Tapu Koko, Crobat, Honchkrow, Dodrio, Noctowl, Xatu, Pelipper, Chatot, Talonflame, Orcorio (all forms)

TM197 Selfheal

Bruxish, Hypno, Xatu, Porygon, Porygon2, Porygon-Z, Jynx, Oranguru, Togekiss, Gallade, Gardevoir, Medicham, Tapu Koko, Tapu Lele, Tapu Fini, Tapu Bulu, Claydol, Chimecho

TM198 Toxic Drop

Arbok, Nidoqueen, Nidoking, Forretress, Roserade, Swalot, Seviper, Muk, Alolan Muk, Naganadel, Toxicroak, Dustox, Venomoth, Pinsir, Toxapex, Skutank, Crobat, Venusaur, Salazzle, Dragalge, Beedrill, Vileplume, Tentacruel, Qwilfish, Haunter, Gengar, Roselia, Nihilego, Parasect, Breloom, Shuckle, Galvantula, Vikavolt, Exeggutor, Alolan Exeggutor, Gliscor, Octillery, Crawdaunt, Metagross, Tangrowth, Excadrill, Pangoro, Gourgeist, Diggersby

TM199 Metronome

Ambipom, Togekiss, Granbull, Primeape, Poliwrath, Alakazam, Gengar, Hypno, Hitmonchan, Hitmonlee, Mr Mime, Jynx, Electabuzz, Electivire, Magmar, Magmortar, Machamp, Golem, Politoed, Ursaring, Ludicolo, Hariyama, Illumise, Volbeat, Sableye, Plusle & Minun, Spinda, Banette, Dusknoir

TM200 Mimic

Sudowoodo, Wigglytuff, Venusaur, Charizard, Blastoise, Arbok, Pikachu, Raichu, Alolan Raichu, Sandslash, Nidoqueen, Nidoking, Clefable, Ninetales, Parasect, Venomoth, Golduck, Poliwrath, Alakazam, Hypno, Rapidash, Slowbro, Magnezone, Dodrio, Dewgong, Cloyster, Gengar, Steelix, Onix, Kangaskhan, Kingdra, Lapras, Porygon, Porygon2, Porygon-Z, Snorlax, Aerodactyl, Dragonite, Meganium, Typhlosion, Feraligatr, Noctowl, Ariados, Togekiss, Xatu, Ampharos, Bellossom, Azumarill, Jumpluff, Sunflora, Espeon, Umbreon, Forretress, Dunsparce, Heracross, Delibird, Mantine, Donphan, Blissey, Tyranitar, Lapras, Sceptile, Blaziken, Swampert, Ludicolo, Swellow, Gardevoir, Gallade, Masquerain, Hariyama, Delcatty, Sableye, Aggron, Medicham, Camerupt, Flygon, Altaria, Seviper, Milotic, Glalie, Salamence, Metagross

TM201 Submission

Poliwrath, Machamp, Pinsir, Charizard, Blastoise, Pikachu, Raichu, Alolan Raichu, Cloned Raichu, Pikachu pop star, Pikachu belle, Pikachu rock star, Pikachu ph.d, pikachu libre, Sandslash, Nidoking, Nidoqueen, Golduck, Primeape, Cloned Primeape, Golem, Alolan Golem, Marowak, Hitmonlee, Hitmonchan, Lickilicky, Kangaskhan, Blissey, Electabuzz, Electrivire, Magmar, Magmortar, Omastar, Kabutops. Snorlax, Infernape, Excadrill, Shiny Excadrill, Feraligatr, Hitmontop, Hariyama, Lucario, Conkeldurr, Crabominable, Shiny Crabominable, Pangoro, Passimian, Medicham, Mega Lucario, Shiny Lucario, Marshadow, Hawlucha, Shiny Hawlucha, Heracross, Mega Heracross, Blaziken, Mega Blaziken, Breloom, Toxicroak, Gallade, Emboar, Chesnaught, Bewear, Shiny Bewear, Kommo-o, Pheromosa

If you think that some TM should be added to certain Pokemon, post it and include argument, otherwise I'll ignore it!
If you think, that some Pokemon SHOULD NOT learn certain TM, post it and include argument, otherwise I'll ignore it!

 

[Carlos Eduardo]

I know it's not the purpose of the post, I'd like a tm or fighter-type attack similar to the Sparkling Aria primary attack. It would be an interesting area attack addition to the fighting Pokémon (LUCARIO).
The Sparkling Aria attack hits all the wild Pokémon around with a spurt of water. Already this attack would hit all the enemies around with a punch or kick.

 

[Nepugia]

There are cases where the normal version of the pokemon appears on the list but their cloned version isn't listed, as with some other tms

Example:

TM197 Selfheal
Alakazam, Bruxish, Hypno, Xatu, Porygon, Porygon2, Porygon-Z, Jynx, Oranguru, Togekiss, Gallade, Gardevoir, Medicham, Tapu Koko, Tapu Lele, Tapu Fini, Tapu Bulu, Claydol, Chimecho

TM186 Close Combat
Primeape, Cloned Primeape, Hitmonchan, Zangoose, Marshadow, Arcanine, Cloned Arcanine, Granbull, Ursaring, Mudsdale, Conkeldurr, Pangoro, Medicham, Hawlucha, Shiny Hawlucha, Poliwrath, Breloom, Toxicroak, Emboar, Buzzwole, Pheromosa

Edit: also in TM natural gift none of the shiny versions of the pokemon that learn it are listed, i don't know if this is intentional or not

 

[Raissa]

There are cases where the normal version of the pokemon appears on the list but their cloned version isn't listed, as with some other tms

Example:

TM197 Selfheal
Alakazam, Bruxish, Hypno, Xatu, Porygon, Porygon2, Porygon-Z, Jynx, Oranguru, Togekiss, Gallade, Gardevoir, Medicham, Tapu Koko, Tapu Lele, Tapu Fini, Tapu Bulu, Claydol, Chimecho

TM186 Close Combat
Primeape, Cloned Primeape, Hitmonchan, Zangoose, Marshadow, Arcanine, Cloned Arcanine, Granbull, Ursaring, Mudsdale, Conkeldurr, Pangoro, Medicham, Hawlucha, Shiny Hawlucha, Poliwrath, Breloom, Toxicroak, Emboar, Buzzwole, Pheromosa

Edit: also in TM natural gift none of the shiny versions of the pokemon that learn it are listed, i don't know if this is intentional or not

That's because I was too lazy to write Shinies and Clones, too much time waste. It is OBVIOUS they will learn it too. Those TMs that have clones and shinies on the list are done by my helper-slave Sting.

 

[Nepugia]

I know it's not the purpose of the post, I'd like a tm or fighter-type attack similar to the Sparkling Aria primary attack. It would be an interesting area attack addition to the fighting Pokémon (LUCARIO).
The Sparkling Aria attack hits all the wild Pokémon around with a spurt of water. Already this attack would hit all the enemies around with a punch or kick.

It may be a good idea since lucario's areas kinda suck, but i recommend you just post what you just said in a rebalance thread instead of here

 

[Caxoxd1]

Well, IMO i think that Shiny Ludicolo/ Ludicolo shouldn't learn Tm natural gift cuz now this poke is very strong and i think is unnecessary that this poke become stronger.

This poke has two stuns on moveset,the normal one has teeter dance + water pulse and the shiny has teeter dance + water pledge (two good stuns), also both can learn brick break, for this reason we can assure that it is a complete poke .
Finally the shiny has nature power + thunder punch something that is usefull for its weakness.

In general, the others pokes are fine, Thanks!

 

[Syntek]

Raissa, I wonder if Crystal Onix, Red Gyarados and Elder Charizard are going to take in consideration for new TMs?


if someone is interested on the answer

 

[Khormes]

Can Gigalith and his Shiny version have TM Selfdestruction? He is rock type pokemon and uhm im not sure what to write more.
Same situation as Golem, if you dont like this idea i can write more arguments.
Second pokemon which should have Selfdestruction is Skarmory.
And if normal Onix will have this, is thst mean Crystal too?

 

[ninjakaban]

Agree with Khromes
There is the reason

Gigalith always used to had Explosion (which is the same as Self-destruction) and he could even has it as causal skill but if no (which is weird if no cuz he's known as pokemon with explosion lol) but if ryl don't want to make him sefldestrucion in normal skill just add it to tm learnest. He depends to has that move

 

[demzpacito]

Dazzling Gleam to Togekiss xd

 

[Raissa]

Well, IMO i think that Shiny Ludicolo/ Ludicolo shouldn't learn Tm natural gift cuz now this poke is very strong and i think is unnecessary that this poke become stronger.

This poke has two stuns on moveset,the normal one has teeter dance + water pulse and the shiny has teeter dance + water pledge (two good stuns), also both can learn brick break, for this reason we can assure that it is a complete poke .
Finally the shiny has nature power + thunder punch something that is usefull for its weakness.

In general, the others pokes are fine, Thanks!

Can Gigalith and his Shiny version have TM Selfdestruction? He is rock type pokemon and uhm im not sure what to write more.
Same situation as Golem, if you dont like this idea i can write more arguments.
Second pokemon which should have Selfdestruction is Skarmory.
And if normal Onix will have this, is thst mean Crystal too?

ok both

 

[Tsotss]

Hello.

TM Defog

I was wondering if TM Defog to Shiftry's TM learnest is good idea. It has already really good cover in moveset which is Natural Gift. I think it could be too much against its weakness like fight or bug type. I won't say that pokemons shouldn't have moves to cover its weakness but with enough luck (too much HP taken by Defog + Natural Gift) can defeat them, what normally shouldn't happen. So yeah, this is the reason why I wouldn't like to see it in its TM learnest. Also I know I am just talking about 2 its weakness, but if I good remember, when I used Shiftry in duel, my opponents usually used bug or fight, fairy type.

Also I would like to ask for test Empoleon with Defog and Sleep Talk/Tri Attack or whatever else to see if it won't kill fight pokes too. Won't say about its other weakness which are fire and ground becouse propably it has big chances to win against them two types.

I know both of them above learn it by TM according to bulbapedia, but is it a good idea?

I would like to ask if you could add TM Defog to Aerodactyl's TM learnest. Could improve its flying type a bit. Also if we consider 1 slot for other TM (becouse of Reflect as a 1st TM) it will have just one move Rain Dance style. Possibility of learning it won't make it so strong.

Could you add that TM Defog to Dodrio's TM learnest? It doesn't have any Rain style TM to learn nor move in moveset. Also this TM would make richer its TM learnest, becouse it just have small area TMs.

Jumpluff - similar as above. Its type is grass/flying. Almost its whole moveset includes grass moves. It has nice and many TMs to choose (unlike Dodrio), many grass type big area. As a flying area TM we can add Sky Attack/Tornado/Fascade. TM Defog would be a big improvement to its TM learnest, especially flying part.

I know they aren't on bulbapedia, but I think would be nice to have possibility learn it by these 2 above.

TM Natural Gift

Really happy that Ludicolo won't have it.

Moreover, don't know if is good idea to give this TM to Dewgong's TM learnest. Dewgong is already pretty strong. With a bit of luck it can defeat Rock and Grass pokemon. It takes much HP from fights pokemon. If you could consider once again Dewgong's case, would be really good.

Its enough for now. I will try to think about others TMs later.

Also great work with those new TMs, possibilty of learning them will improve some pokemons!


@edit:

Fury Swipes

Spinda - generally saying, its moveset isn't so rich, the same as a TM learnest (even with those 3 news). TM Fury Swipes could enrich its learnest. Could help much in exp side, since it has Return and Tetter Dance. In my opinion having also this TM would make it complete.

Others TMs I think are good signed to pokemons.



Also Raissa - Kricketune has Steamroller as a move, also you wrote it can learn it by TM.

 

[Syntek]

Can Luxray have TM Natural Gift? If Jolteon, Raichu and Electivire can, there is a chance for Luxray?

Nowdays electric pokemon aren't that popular, and since Luxray can't learn something Grass or Water, or having on his moveset a nice move like Jolteon do (Wish) would be nice to see Natural Gift on him.

 

[Robertos]

Why can blaziken learn defog ?!

 

[Khormes]

One suggestion more, can Lucario learn final gambit? He isnt pure fight so he wouldnt be too op, i dont see a reason why he shouldnt have it