Jolteon

[Elias Walker]

This is my Idea for Jolteon:

Can also swipe Charge Beam for Thunder or Ice Fang

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[huberto]

I believe discharge is not an option since a lot of people have it as a TM, mayby Ion Deluge or Electrify(?), the one with magma storm formula. Also I would rather keep Swagger in it's moveset, it dies and not everyone can afford Reflect to cast one or two spells before dying.

 

[Elias Walker]

I believe discharge is not an option since a lot of people have it as a TM, mayby Ion Deluge or Electrify(?), the one with magma storm formula. Also I would rather keep Swagger in it's moveset, it dies and not everyone can afford Reflect to cast one or two spells before dying.

I agree with you about swagger, and took the Idea of Discharge from Bulbapedia. Maybe Iron Deluge would fit nicely on Jolteon

 

[NandoCruise]

I agree that Jolteon needs desperately a rebalance. Now, almost all electric-type pokes have at least 3 full AoE moves. Jolteon just have 1 Full (electric storm) and 1 "half" (thunder).

I also agree with Huberto in these two points: 1.- lots of Jolteon have Discharge as a TM; 2.- needs an Area stun.

I think Electric Storm + Ion Deluge would make Jolteon OP, since both moves-damage's speed is fast.

This is my suggestion:
(in order of strength)

1.Tail Whip
2. Thunder Fang (it paralyses)
3. Baby-dolls eyes
4. Thunder Bolt
5. Pin Missile
6. Helping Hand / Charge Beam (depending on what Rebalance team think is better)
7. Sleep Talk (Area stun with damage, instead of 1 area stun with no damage and 1 target stun with damage)
8. Lightning Rush (Meteor Smash-like Move)
9. Electro Blast (Not so many Jolteons have this TM, since it is hard to come by)
10. Electric Storm

Thanks!

***All moves based on Bulbapedia (Except Lightning Rush)

@Edit: I was thinking about move #6.
a) If Helping Hand is a viable option, since Jolteon would only have 5 electric-type moves, maybe Charge Beam as passive? (Similar to Flareon)
b) If rebalance Team consider to leave Charge Beam, maybe Swift as passive? (Like Leafeon used to have)

 

[Ashtib]

i like your suggest, but ... i vote for charge beam and swift in passive, like 2 balance's before we remove helping hand in jolt xd... equal that need be checked by high range staff

 

[Kreatywniak]

This is my Idea for Jolteon:

Can also swipe Charge Beam for Thunder or Ice Fang

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yes i like it moveset!

 

[Juangutierrez]

This is my Idea for Jolteon:

Can also swipe Charge Beam for Thunder or Ice Fang

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my suggestion
P Thunder shock
m1 Wild charge
m2 tail whip
m3 Swagger
m4 Thunder bolt
m5 Helping hand
m6 Thunder
m7 Pin missile
m8 charge
m9 Lightning rush
m10 electric Storm

it seems too much Healping hand+baby-doll eyes+ pin missile would be op gg flygon

 

[Kreatywniak]

my suggestion
P Thunder shock
m1 Wild charge
m2 tail whip
m3 Swagger
m4 Thunder bolt
m5 Helping hand
m6 Thunder
m7 Pin missile
m8 charge
m9 Lightning rush
m10 electric Storm

it seems too much Healping hand+baby-doll eyes+ pin missile would be op gg flygon

Good ^

 

[huberto]

Good ^

Spamming such useless comments in every rebalance related thread won't increase your tutor recruitment chance.

PS. sorry for offtopic

 

[Dzoon]

Finally someone says it xD

 

[NandoCruise]

I agree that Jolteon needs desperately a rebalance. Now, almost all electric-type pokes have at least 3 full AoE moves. Jolteon just have 1 Full (electric storm) and 1 "half" (thunder).

I also agree with Huberto in these two points: 1.- lots of Jolteon have Discharge as a TM; 2.- needs an Area stun.

I think Electric Storm + Ion Deluge would make Jolteon OP, since both moves-damage's speed is fast.

This is my suggestion:
(in order of strength)

1.Tail Whip
2. Thunder Fang (it paralyses)
3. Baby-dolls eyes
4. Thunder Bolt
5. Pin Missile
6. Helping Hand / Charge Beam (depending on what Rebalance team think is better)
7. Sleep Talk (Area stun with damage, instead of 1 area stun with no damage and 1 target stun with damage)
8. Lightning Rush (Meteor Smash-like Move)
9. Electro Blast (Not so many Jolteons have this TM, since it is hard to come by)
10. Electric Storm

Thanks!

***All moves based on Bulbapedia (Except Lightning Rush)

@Edit: I was thinking about move #6.
a) If Helping Hand is a viable option, since Jolteon would only have 5 electric-type moves, maybe Charge Beam as passive? (Similar to Flareon)
b) If rebalance Team consider to leave Charge Beam, maybe Swift as passive? (Like Leafeon used to have)

Although it's not my thread, I Bump my suggestion.

 

[Fallen Angel]

I agree with Nando's suggestion but with some changes of my own,

Current Moveset;

My Suggestions

Replace Swift by Baby-doll Eyes - lvl 46 - 15s

Reason;

Swift is a long distance low dmg attack, so is Baby-doll Eyes but Baby-doll Eyes give enemy a very short debuff which Jolteon can really use.

Replace Wild Charge by Lightning Rush - lvl 50 - 30s

Reason;

This is not about changing a target move with an AoE, it is more about the whole moveset. Jolteon has 1 good AoE(Electric Storm), 1 meh AoE(Thunder) and one AoE-like move(Charge Beam), when we look at other Electric Types such as Riachu and Zebstrika we can see they have a lot of good Electric type AoE moves. Lightning Rush is the perfect solution because while it has solid dmg, it doesn't have a big range.

Replace Thunder by Shock Wave - lvl 40 - 40s

Reason;

Like I mentioned before Jolteon doesn't have many AoE's and right now it is one of the worst Electric types in game, if we had tiers(maybe somebody or some guild has) in game all other Electric types would be at least A- while Jolteon is a C at its best.

Replace Thundershock by Thunder Fang - lvl 40 -25s(or maybe 30, can't say anything withou testing)

Reason;

By Replacing Thunder w Shock Wave, Jolteon wouldn't have it's paralyzing move and since my suggestion removes Wild Charge from moveset it will need the paralyze.

So the final moveset would be

m1 - Lightning Rush
m2 - Tail Whip
m3 - Swagger
m4 - Thunder Bolt(by the way it should be spelled as Thunderbolt, just saying ^^)
m5 - Charge Beam
m6 - Shock Wave
m7 - Pin Missle
m8 - Thunder Fang
m9 - Electric Storm
m10 - Baby-doll Eyes

 

[Elias Walker]

Although it's not my thread, I Bump my suggestion.

Although it's not your thread, I Bump your suggestion.

 

[Tsotss]

I also think Jolteon should be rebalanced. The worst electric pokemon in game for me, even worse than Pikachu.. Like the ideas above, but if you have your own idea, just make it.

 

[NandoCruise]

I agree that Jolteon needs desperately a rebalance. Now, almost all electric-type pokes have at least 3 full AoE moves. Jolteon just have 1 Full (electric storm) and 1 "half" (thunder).

I also agree with Huberto in these two points: 1.- lots of Jolteon have Discharge as a TM; 2.- needs an Area stun.

I think Electric Storm + Ion Deluge would make Jolteon OP, since both moves-damage's speed is fast.

This is my suggestion:
(in order of strength)

1.Tail Whip
2. Thunder Fang (it paralyses)
3. Baby-dolls eyes
4. Thunder Bolt
5. Pin Missile
6. Helping Hand / Charge Beam (depending on what Rebalance team think is better)
7. Sleep Talk (Area stun with damage, instead of 1 area stun with no damage and 1 target stun with damage)
8. Lightning Rush (Meteor Smash-like Move)
9. Electro Blast (Not so many Jolteons have this TM, since it is hard to come by)
10. Electric Storm

Thanks!

***All moves based on Bulbapedia (Except Lightning Rush)

@Edit: I was thinking about move #6.
a) If Helping Hand is a viable option, since Jolteon would only have 5 electric-type moves, maybe Charge Beam as passive? (Similar to Flareon)
b) If rebalance Team consider to leave Charge Beam, maybe Swift as passive? (Like Leafeon used to have)

Bump!
Sorry for bumps, but all of out Jolteons are rotting in Locker

 

[Tsotss]

Here is the comparison of Electric type pokes. You can see how poor Jolteon is..

COMPARING ONLY THE AMOUNT OF ELECTRICAL MOVEMENTS

1. Pachirisu – 4 AoE – Nuzzle, Lighting Rush, Ion Deluge, Discharge
2. Ampharos – 3 AoE (+ maybe Zap Cannon) – Thunder, Electro Blast, Discharge
3. Pikachu – 4 AoE – Nuzzle, Thunder, Discharge, Electric Storm
4. Luxray – 3 AoE – Shock Wave, Eerie Impulse, Electric Storm
5. Electivire – 3 AoE – Thunder, Electric Storm, Electric Terrain
6. Plusle & Minun – 4 AoE – Thunder, Nuzzle, Shock Wave, Eerie Impulse
7. Raichu – 4 AoE – Shock Wave, Thunder, Electric Storm, Electric Terrain
8. Electrode – 2 AoE (+ maybe Charge Beam) – Shock Wave, Electric Storm (huge 2 AoE)
9. Manetric – 3 AoE – Thunder, Shock Wave, Electric Terrain
10. Zebstrika – 3 AoE (+ maybe Thunder Wave) – Shock Wave, Electric Terrain, Ion Deluge
11. Jolteon – 2 AoE (+ maybe Charge Beam) – Thunder, Electric Storm (huge 1 AoE)

 

[NandoCruise]

COMPARING ONLY THE AMOUNT OF ELECTRICAL MOVEMENTS

1. Pachirisu – 4 AoE – Nuzzle, Lighting Rush, Ion Deluge, Discharge
2. Ampharos – 3 AoE (+ maybe Zap Cannon) – Thunder, Electro Blast, Discharge
3. Pikachu – 4 AoE – Nuzzle, Thunder, Discharge, Electric Storm
4. Luxray – 3 AoE – Shock Wave, Eerie Impulse, Electric Storm
5. Electivire – 3 AoE – Thunder, Electric Storm, Electric Terrain
6. Plusle & Minun – 4 AoE – Thunder, Nuzzle, Shock Wave, Eerie Impulse
7. Raichu – 4 AoE – Shock Wave, Thunder, Electric Storm, Electric Terrain
8. Electrode – 2 AoE (+ maybe Charge Beam) – Shock Wave, Electric Storm (huge 2 AoE)
9. Manetric – 3 AoE – Thunder, Shock Wave, Electric Terrain
10. Zebstrika – 3 AoE (+ maybe Thunder Wave) – Shock Wave, Electric Terrain, Ion Deluge
11. Jolteon – 2 AoE (+ maybe Charge Beam) – Thunder, Electric Storm (huge 1 AoE)

I just want to add the following:

1. Pachirisu has Endure.
2. Ampharos has Power Gem (small but good AoE)
4. Luxray, besides having 2 stuns already included in its moveset, it has baby-dolls eyes.
8. Electrode might have only 2 AoE moves (huge, as Lewuseq said), but it has Protect + Healing move

11. Jolteon's only good AoE move is Electric Storm and it sometimes doesn't hit the opponent. It sux

 

[Tsotss]

I just want to add the following:

1. Pachirisu has Endure.
2. Ampharos has Power Gem (small but good AoE)
4. Luxray, besides having 2 stuns already included in its moveset, it has baby-dolls eyes.
8. Electrode might have only 2 AoE moves (huge, as Lewuseq said), but it has Protect + Healing move

11. Jolteon's only good AoE move is Electric Storm and it sometimes doesn't hit the opponent. It sux

I thought about writing other moves like you but just decided to focus on Electric ones. Btw others have more perspectives than Jolteon.

 

[Fallen Angel]

bumpy bumpy

 

[Zelricks]

We will see, but not now

Will pokemons get rebalance before tournament?

No. Just pokemons that can have 3 stuns will lose this possibility. (removing tm if necessary)