Ambipom

[Trafalgar Water Law]

Hello, mates.

Atm, i'm wondering if ambipom could get any improvement?!
Since last rebalances, we got many new formulas, move systems and amoug other things. Imo, ambipom end up not gettin' any "profit" from such new chages; what makes it kinda hard to use to face anything, be it while PVE or PVP, even its been rlly devalued.

btw, i'd like to proporse some suggestions.

once we have currently ambipom with the following moves:

u turn
dual chop
frustration
swift
echoed voice
pain split
doubleslap
protection
boomburst
fury swipes

_________________________________________

i'd like to propose:

doubleslap
teer dance
pain split
rock tomb
fury swipes
protection
dual chop
secret power
swift
super power / shadow claw / fling
echoed voice - passive

another suggestion would be:

doubleslap
teer dance
pain split
rock tomb
fury swipes
endure
dual chop
false swipe
swift
super power / shadow claw / fling
frustration - passive

 

[Tsotss]

To be honest sometimes I use Ambi in duel and it is good enough. Its one of my normal favourites. Don't wanna talk about its exp side cus simply didn't use it.

Ps. Fling can not be used cus if I am not wrong it gonna have Imprision formula (not sure). This way pokemons which got Fling now have Snarl (like Primeape).

 

[Grayfoox]

To be honest sometimes I use Ambi in duel and it is good enough. Its one of my normal favourites. Don't wanna talk about its exp side cus simply didn't use it.

Ps. Fling can not be used cus if I am not wrong it gonna have Imprision formula (not sure). This way pokemons which got Fling now have Snarl (like Primeape).

I exped an Aipom and was not a problem because it has metronome, but when it evolves, oh shit, it has not any good moves to exp, it needs TMs to do it. So I think it only needs metronome again in moveset

 

[Trafalgar Water Law]

 

[Caxoxd1]

I consider that it has 2 weak moves knowing that is the last evolution, Doubleslap and Swift, so would be fine to remove one of them at least. Also, I thought about some moves that can make her great, so I suggest this moveset:


Passive: Pain split

U turn
dual chop > Nasty plot
frustration
swift > Fake Tears
echoed voice
pain split > Smelling Salts
doubleslap
protection
boomburst > endeavor/super power
fury swipes

 

[Trafalgar Water Law]

I consider that it has 2 weak moves knowing that is the last evolution, Doubleslap and Swift, so would be fine to remove one of them at least. Also, I thought about some moves that can make her great, so I suggest this moveset:


Passive: Pain split

U turn
dual chop > Nasty plot
frustration
swift > Fake Tears
echoed voice
pain split > Smelling Salts
doubleslap
protection
boomburst > endeavor/super power
fury swipes

Some AoE stunning move would be pretty nice as well, by this way, i thought in something about fling.
Another interesting thing i think rebalancers did (of course it is subjective) it was about infernape, removing its protection and replacing by acrobatics + one AoE stunning move. In according to bulbpedia be an acrobat is one of the specially signatured move from ambipom due its quiclky and strong two tail-hands. It may not be interesting for it, anyway just letting another possible move idea.

Another thing, I have been thought about, its about some normal pokémon passive. It may be something crazy to suggest, but, taking ambipom as an example ... add Metronome as passive, with a realeasing rate kinda low/medium. The same would applies to Mimic and maybe some other which i don't remember now. I mean, it's an alternative and different way of dueling and expeing experience (everything may be changed, in case of not working or making X pokémon being Opness). And just an observation about this idea, would be even have matronome or mimic or something like that as passive... wouldn't affect its moveset list (the AoE ones), i mean, even the pokémon having 3 AoE moves it still might have metronome or mimic as passive, as i said early .. for those which have 3 AoE one, the passive release (metronome/mimic) rate might be kinda low/medium.